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Dr Mike Yeadon's avatar

People who have the disease called Cystic Fibrosis have respiratory (& sometimes gastrointestinal as well) symptoms which sit on a spectrum from so mild that a lab test is needed to confirm that this is what’s going on, to dying very young.

The narrative has it that a gene called Cystic Fibrosis Transmembrane Regulator (CFTR) can mutate in a large number of ways. The (bad) luck of the draw governs the extent to which your version of the CFTR protein malfunctions.

Guess what CFTR protein does? It pumps negatively charged chloride ions across the respiratory epithelium (layer of cells covering the inside of your airways). That matters because this governs the quantity of other ions and crucially water in the thin layer of liquid covering the airway lining layer, called “airway surface liquid” (ASL).

If this is too dense and too shallow, the mucus proteins in ASL become sticky and too viscous to be wafted mouthward by the coordinated action of ciliated cells in that lining of your airway. Sticky mucus& coughing result. Acute respiratory symptoms including breathlessness. Airway surface liquids in the upper airway, including the nasal passages, also affects congestion and the olfactory system ie the sense of smell.

What do sufferers of CF experience more often than anyone else?

They get “colds”, which are unusually frequent and uncommonly persistent.

All to do with a change in the hydration state of the liquid sitting on the cells lining their airways.

So to recap, a tiny change in the rate of secretion of a negatively charged ion (chloride) in the thin layer of liquid in your airway can result in you getting colds.

Now is it so terribly difficult to imagine that this is a root cause of far less commonplace colds in the rest of us?

What kind of environmental conditions might yield loss of control of the state of hydration of your airway lining such that your body can’t get it back under control quickly? Wintertime, going in and out of heated buildings? Exposure to cold, dry air outside? Then warm, dry air inside? Coupled with stresses, both dietary, psychological and physical?

I propose that this provides a better theoretical explanation for the incidence of colds than the germ (“virus”) theory ever has.

We even get coincidental appearance of colds in people who have “been in contact with one another”. What we have instead is exposure to common environmental stressors. It’s no wonder that those who share homes, workplaces and other shared spaces sometimes develop similar symptoms of colds later on.

This coincidence is consistent with contagion. I understand why many people are convinced that they “caught their cold” from someone with whom they shared space. But it’s an illusion brought about by sharing common environmental triggers and colds occurring at a sufficiently high frequency (so overlap in my symptoms after sharing space with you, when you had a cold, isn’t an unlikely occurrence).

We know that contagion is merely an illusion because whenever any research group attempts to demonstrate contagion, it never occurs. People do not develop colds more frequently after sharing space with someone who is symptomatic with a cold than if they share space with a healthy person.

I wonder what happens in a mock diagnostic PCR test if you sample the airway surface liquid of a person when they’ve got a cold?

I remember in 2020 thinking all you need for the illusion is to set up a test that goes positive in response to something that changes in people with a cold (or flu, which I contend is nothing more than a more severe persistent perturbation of airway surface liquid).

I wasn’t smart enough to come up then with a candidate for the thing that changes and gives rise to positive test results, but I suspect Jamie Andrews just has.

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Jamie Andrews's avatar

Hi Mike,

Just to clarify, I am not suggesting that these Ionic changes are CAUSING respiratory infections.

I am very firmly with you belief of how this happens in our "terrain".

Just that the Ionic changes are the RESULT of the infection that are expressed in clinical samples and that is what the PCR is measuring

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Tim West's avatar

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Jamie Andrews's avatar

It would seem it is just stopping you detox… by closing the chloride channels… thus explaining why it has the appearance of “working” both in symptoms (detox pathways) and PCR testing.

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Thumbnail Green's avatar

If it’s delaying detox it’s forcing the body to hold/store toxins longer.

Gee they seem to have thought this slow cull protocol through pretty well.

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Jamie Andrews's avatar

Unfortunately so

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Dan Whiting's avatar

Fantastic, Tim!

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Horius Parry's avatar

This sounds quite likely as a mechanism for some of the symptoms of a cold/influenza etc.

Still to be explained though:

1. What causes the dis-regulation in the first place?

2. What explains seasonal factors and local clustering?

3. Why do some people test positive with no symptoms?

4. Why is does a sense of unease and brain fog precede the inflammation?

If the "environmental conditions might yield loss of control of the state of hydration" then the loss of hydration cannot be labelled as a root cause but instead environmental conditions themselves should be considered as the culprit.

Proposal: An electromagnetic bio-field is responsible for all bodily regulation and disturbances of this field by geo-magnetic changes leads to dis-regulation and all manner of symptoms.

This explains seasonal changes as the Earth's magnetic field changes with the season.

Local outbreaks are caused by local 'turbulence' in the geo-magnetic field.

Latitudinal coincidences are likely related to magnetic field filaments.

The point is that the Earth's electromagnetic field has a strong spatial and temporal structure that is statistically correlated to outbreaks of all mis-labelled 'infectious' diseases. https://library-of-atlantis.com/2024/01/03/seasonal-disease/ Vortices in the field can lead to very local hot spots right down to the size of a tornado, a cruise ship or a single hospital ward.

The body's bio-field acts as an antenna for such disturbances and so no physical organ is necessary for reception of such signals. This has been missed as classical physics insists that some magnetic particles are necessary for detection of a magnetic field.

A tissue culture hosts its own (dysfunctional) bio-field and as such is open to the same field disturbances as a whole organism. Strong correlations exist between sequencing results and both season and latitude so the possibility should be considered that geo-magnetic events can influence these diagnostics directly and independent of the state of health of the subject.

The mechanism for PCR is that it detects small changes in electric fields (not 'charge', charge is never measured directly but only by the electric field that is assumed to emanate from it) and so it is now quite plausible that the results may be affected by atmospheric fields, cell-phone radiation or even the bio-field of the lab assistant or equipment.

Kaznacheev found that the cytopathic effect could be transmitted from a sealed container presumably via an electric field of some sort: https://library-of-atlantis.com/cytopathic-mirror-effect/

A bio-field is an essential concept for many other reasons: https://library-of-atlantis.com/2025/04/03/the-nature-of-the-bio-field/

So: Turbulence in the magnetic field leads to dis-regulation, sense of unease is experienced, symptoms appear soon after in almost any part of the body and are labelled as a disease.

Symptoms appear in the population as a bell curve and as a local clustering reflecting the magnetic field structure. The first patient is labelled 'patient zero' and the subsequent cases create the illusion of transmission. The easing off of the bell curve is claimed as proof of herd immunity and the width of the curve as the 'serial interval' or some such.

Controlled measurements of biological, chemical and physical processes have been shown many times to vary in synch with cosmic events: https://library-of-atlantis.com/the-shnoll-effect/

The Earth's magnetic field is certainly strong enough to cause real world events; it can move a metal compass, cause earthquakes(?) and give rise to lightning. Surely it is strong enough to influence a PCR test?

Sceptics will ask how the worldwide data from PCR and sequencing can have all the structure it does and claim that the only answer is DNA or whatever but this is a shallow view. The outcome of such tests is never random but is the result of the interaction of a bunch of electromagnetic field structures. The geo-magnetic field has seasonal and global patterns which are modulated by the ionosphere to form local patterns and these impact upon 'interpretive' bio-fields in whole organisms and tissue cultures to produce further semi-reproducible results.

The statistical properties of the results of sequencing procedures are not commonly studied and the inescapable consequence of this is that no result has any meaning whatsoever. Scientists may say that such and such a result is extremely surprising or even proof of transmission but if we don't know the baseline behaviour of the tests then literally no sensible conclusion is possible.

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Elle's avatar

So 5 G EMF’s that we are all using will disrupt internal bodily functions.

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Horius Parry's avatar

Yes, awful stuff: https://ehtrust.org/

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Mojo Cuba's avatar

Great points!

If contagion was a real thing, humanity would never have survived .

Entire communities would have been wiped out .

germ theory, especially when it pertains to these magic virii was designed in a such a way that it can never be proven or disproven (so far)

In essence a theory to drive the perfect cash cow

“Treat the symptoms, never the disease” is a neverending fountain of monies 🤬

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KatWarrior's avatar

Thank you, Mike and Jamie! Clarity over agreement. Science is NOT consensus. Science is questioning with transparency.

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Alexander Rimmer's avatar

Hi Mr Yeadon

Perhaps something in that chloride damages the cells and then the whole ‘detox’ and ‘immune’ process is triggered.

I would also suggest that retinoic acid and retinoids could be candidates for many illnesses.

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Crixcyon's avatar

Seems similar to giving a patient drugs to alter their "numbers" so that they fit in the presumed healthy box. Nothing much has changed since whatever is causing the numbers to be out of whack is still there.

I have never had a PCR test. When the inventor (Mullis) said that it could not be used to discover diseases, I figured that was the end of the story, for me anyway. The use of PRC testing has been abused to the point where is it basically used to promote fake pandemics. Especially when a piece of fruit tests positive for covid.

Interesting investigation and all the more reason to never trust the medical system, especially their testing methods and what the results actually mean.

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Alexander Rimmer's avatar

Crixcycon,

Similar is probably an understatement.

As usual though there is some truth behind the BS. It's just a long way behind and it's very small so it's hard to see.

Mullis was in on the scam from before it started.

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Lucinda's avatar

Can you elaborate w/us on: "Mullis was in on the scam from before it started." Not necessarily a true-believer in Mullis or any other scientist but can you give us a link on what you mean re: him being in on it - i.e. "covid??" - if that's what you mean. Intrigued.

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Lucinda's avatar

Wow. TY Proton. https://protonmagic.substack.com/p/mullis-the-movie-star

Feeling kinda blown away by this. Stupid too. Can never be cynical enough...

Just when you think you've seen/are familiar w/all the dang convid psyops... :/ & this info is from 2023. Maybe he didn't die either & is on some island w/ all the faked-death celebs & rock stars & Marilyn & JFK & JFK Jr ... Shee-it.

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Anna's avatar

Did you read ALL the comments under that Mullis video? I recommend to read those comments. Internet is being rewritten.

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Jessica Hockett's avatar

"Double, double toil and trouble;

Fire burn and caldron bubble.

Fillet of a fenny snake,

In the caldron boil and bake;

Eye of newt and toe of frog,

Wool of bat and tongue of dog,

Adder's fork and blind-worm's sting,

Lizard's leg and howlet's wing,

For a charm of powerful trouble,

Like a hell-broth boil and bubble.

Double, double toil and trouble;

Fire burn and caldron bubble.

Cool it with a baboon's blood,

Then the charm is firm and good."

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Paul Vonharnish's avatar

+100 likes. The "stuff" of alchemy hasn't changed in hundreds of years.

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Rob (c137)'s avatar

It's like those crazy science projects from school that use a lot of science, forgetting that the methods lead to tainted answers.

Kary Mullis is one of those kids....

https://robc137.substack.com/p/pcr-fails-logic-from-the-start-sorry

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Evil Harry's avatar

I do think that Kary was clever enough to know exactly that though.

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Rob (c137)'s avatar

Yeah but somehow they still used PCR for tons of genetic stuff and he didn't call that out. Or perhaps he would, depending on his mood.

He once said that PCR if done in many cycles could show anything, just like some Buddhist idea. I think he never understood how bullshit his invention was.... But sometimes it seems like he was trolling the people that made him rich.

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Allen's avatar

Can PCR detect a global racketeering scheme?

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Rob (c137)'s avatar

Nah only the right hemisphere of the brain can do it 😂

https://robc137.substack.com/p/allergic-to-bullshit

Off topic but I was trying to get someone to realize the China lab leak story makes no sense from the beginning... Why would our enemy let us chill in their biolabs? The dude is still not getting this huge thorn in the story and I figure he's cognitively stunted. Like my father, there's something that they either refuse to consider or cannot calculate for themselves.

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Edward Flynn's avatar

Jamie thanks your tutorials. As a worker the semiconductor world (until Q3’21 … no explanation needed) I’m familiar with SIMS for surface analysis and somewhat with flame spectroscopy for samples in solution. My eyes glaze over at the thought of using finicky and expensive methods —-that work well only with intensive maintenance and attention to detail to detect atomic species violently coaxed from the matrix they are in —- for, instead, complex biological samples.

I know nothing about this parallel universe of genomics.

All I surmise is that a person who reports to the ER — without admission by a private physician who will supervise treatment — does not know their life hangs by a spider’s thread. A positive PCR puts them on proticol: a trap door that drops the help-seeker into hell.

About time we know just how the 21st century extermination camps we call “hospitals” were operating. At 450000USD payout per corpse, the hospital could afford rip-off expense for primitive equipment something like what you have described.

So many questions! Too bad Kary Mullis passed away when he did. How dare he! But some say he had assistance, as his commentary would have been inconvenient going into the pandemic.

The “no-virus” voices operate under the terms of protected free speech, but their credibility is hurt by failing to answer simple lay-person observations about disease transmission and identical symptoms shared by persons who were in the same room .. or bed … long enough. We can’t be told it did not happen. Everybody has a model based on repeatable observations.

This situation is analogous to complaints from parents who saw their child regress into non-verbal autism after vaccinations. One complaint may be called an anecdote. A million identical complaints become a data set. It has to be addressed with more than “we know best” from doctors who, in fact, don’t know much and manufacturers who hide behind a black box of methodologies the victims have no way to challenge.

In the case of genomics I’m ready to believe that flaky measurements are convenient when there is a lot of money at stake.

I’ll keep reading. My question is whether solid methods in genomics exist in the capable hands high integrity professionals, somewhere, somehow. My guess is “yes” but I don’t know.

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Proton Magic's avatar

There is no proof Mullis passed away. Words out of people's mouths do not prove a death. Until proven otherwise, these reports of deaths of elite persons should be taken as "info for public consumption". See for example: https://protonmagic.substack.com/p/jackie-the-car-jumper

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ab's avatar
Apr 3Edited

Would like to touch on a couple of points:

'(no-virus) credibility is hurt by failing to answer simple lay-person observations about disease transmission and identical symptoms shared by persons'

- If lay persons are unwilling or unable to invest in their own well-being and that of any off-spring through learning to read and comprehend what is at best elementary logic and critique of virological literature, and choose to believe there are 'invisible never seen' agents threatening their existence...because 'shared symptoms' or other poorly described circumstances such anecdotes are confounded by is squarely on the individual to figure out for themselves.

If is not the responsibility of 'no-virus' to provide for infinite limitations and environmental variables of the lay-persons.

No credibility is lost through not explaining the 'un-explainable'.

Communications and targeted simplification is important indeed a crucial element in getting messaging of facts and truth through, however it is not the responsibility of the fact teller(s) per se.

More analogously related to 'lay-people' could be: Explain shared symptoms.

Yawning

Laughter

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'analogous to complaints from parents who saw their child regress into non-verbal autism after vaccinations'

- Vaccines are a physical product (invisible contents in liquid aside) with 10's thousands of papers in the body of scientific literature describing harms related to if not caused by said products.

To use a physically visible touchable product that literally and exclusively described as having been administered preceding (adverse event / reaction / regression etc) as 'analogous' to an invisible un-seen 'causative agent' misses the mark.

There is no comparison at all.

Enjoyed your comment.

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Doug Leclair's avatar

This is awesome Jamie!

Coincidentally, I was speaking with a friend yesterday about acidosis as being a likely trigger for disease.

I am grateful to have access to your deep dives!

Many North of me in Ontario, Canada have had a cold/flu filled season. Tons of snow, extreme cold, the worst Winter in 30 plus years. All of my close friends know that these illnesses are not caused by a virus. However, they keep asking me for answers!

I was caring for a few and never had any issues.

So much to unlearn, learn and discover.

Truth, Love, Justice and Freedom!

Feel free to correct any of my hypotheses or comments!

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Val Zimmer's avatar

Great. Great.

Thank you Jamie..

This could also explain the positive results of say, bird flu, when a dead animal is tested with PCR. When an animal dies, fermentation begins. This lowers pH.

Hmmm. And thinking more. Cells and tissue dying in the body will cause bacteria to ferment as well. A malnourished and poisoned body will have more cell death.

Even emf and 5G may play a role. 5G can cause Rouleau effect in the body causing less oxygen to be ferried around. Do cells switch to fermentation for energy when in environment of less oxygen? That would increase pH.

Also, emf/5G is known to open calcium channels. Calcium is positive, Ca²⁺. How would this affect a pcr test? We know 5G was rolled right before the Covid BS.

Just brainstorming here.

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Jamie Andrews's avatar

Cheers Val, I like your ideas... yes the point to this was to open the floor to suggestions... we know it measures charge but quite how exactly it uds up doing so may be open to interpretation. I think it is an exciting area to investigate..all the best

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Joel's avatar

This article is nothing short of brilliance. Well done Jamie

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Alexander Rimmer's avatar

Hmm Jamie,

As I have been saying from before the beginning of time. That is why we have to inject people with sodium chloride solution as a control. The saline injections cause covid (as far as covid exists) and other disease. Of course there are many other methods.

None of this is new. Find a common symptom of a disease, create a test for it, create a 'drug' that changes the result of the test, make billions. Repeat repeat repeat.

Have you read up on the charge theory of famous (controlled opposition) truther Miles Mathis. In the end charge is probably all there is in the physical world. Perhaps (a bit deep) charge is the only thing that can actually be tested for.

Make sure you continue differentiate between different PCR methods. Remember our lords would like these home tests to be replaced with something more expensive where possible.

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Jamie Andrews's avatar

I haven't read that exact paper of MM.. have you got a link to it... my feeling is that that is correct though and as we know with CO they like to mix truth with lies to draw you in. Just my gut feeling.

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Alexander Rimmer's avatar

MM has multiple papers on his charge theory, mostly on his science site. I would not remember which ones were best.

Many of the papers are full of errors, so only his followers, someone who already has a similar theory or someone who understands controlled opposition could ever take them seriously.

Jamie you have no need to worry about me truly falling for any controlled opposition. I haven't truly believed anyone since I learned about Santa as a five year old. I am the most sceptical person in the world. Even people with an audience smaller than yours I assume are in on parts of it all (I can't write that so it doesn't sound offensive, I'm sorry). In fact I don't even trust myself, sounds sad but I know I'm easily controlled and have been programmed to fit in all my life, undoubtedly I'm pushing something somewhere. I definitely do not know what of MMs charge theory is true or false. Anyway I have still learned more from the controlled opposition than I have from the average peasant so I kind of have a level of appreciation for their work.

Good luck with your investigation into DNA. I look forward to your findings.

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Jamie Andrews's avatar

Agreed always best to keep an open mind... that is truely scientific

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Lucinda's avatar

Alexander -

Re: your comment: "Have you read up on the charge theory of famous (controlled opposition) truther Miles Mathis. In the end charge is probably all there is in the physical world. Perhaps (a bit deep) charge is the only thing that can actually be tested for."

... Do you have any confirmed cites, links or proofs that Mile Mathis is a controlled-op? Just wondering cuz his reports seem to be accurate re: other exposes/sources on the topics. To be clear, I always take researchers w/a grain of salt & so am always interested in learning which of the deep-state or US hoax researchers are disinfo, compromised or complicit with any of the promoted story-lines. Thnx in advance for sharing sources on Mathis question.

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Proton Magic's avatar

MM had almost no post on Covid, from 2020 to 2023. One of them he berated the no virus people. He was great on past and finished ops so he made people believe he was trustworthy. A common propaganda tactic. You'll have to look up and read his Covid articles yourself.

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Lucinda's avatar

Okay - that's a good point re: MM & the convid that I'll follow up on. But lots of folks who are good on way past historical exposes side-stepped the convid too. :/

Not every investigator covers every issue unfortunately altho it's hard to determine what that means. Convid is a big one tho. Thought maybe you had a link or two that exposed him thru research or connections as I don't know who "he" really is.

Some have speculated that the "Miles Mathis" articles are not just one person but a group/front for various writers but haven't been able to figure out if that's just wild disinfo speculation. Difficult to know who is on the take, compromised, or complicit etc. To me, the MM articles/history exposes seem to have a certain similar cadence/tone.

Re: another good investigator, some folks say Dave McGowan was a controlled op too but think that's crazy. Seems the latest gig for many is character defamation. :/

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Proton Magic's avatar

MM claims to be the new Newton, a genius at math and physics-I didn't read that section-but he can't figure out and write about one of the most significant events of mankind, and the new Newton needs to sell paintings to live on? This makes no sense. And he does good investigations on the past. Me and many others, we are really nobodies but we can figure out Covid and write dozens of detailed posts but he writes 3 piss-poor articles in 3 or 4 years? One wasn't by him, one was about 2 pages long, one was about taxes or something. He is deflecting people away from the Covid truths. Yes he seems like a group.

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Alexander Rimmer's avatar

Dave McGowan is definitely controlled pretty tightly.

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Alexander Rimmer's avatar

I reckon maybe some timelex character or something similar did some research on him, you might like that. But the simple fact he is promoted so heavily by known controlled opposition (he also promoted them) should be enough.

As you get better at this you will be able to tell by their writing style also. And your base assumption will change to EVERYONE in the truth movement is controlled opposition (including ourselves).

In MMs guru paper he pretty much revealed himself and the way it works. His connection with Josh (I like Josh, seems like a nice guy) could also be considered evidence. The old cutting through the fog site was full to the brim with MMs very own markers etc etc.

For important things like covid and supplements he will sometimes give up his cover. He still pushes viruses really hard.

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Lucinda's avatar

The so-called PCR "tests" are not diagnostic tests & are only laboratory tools/methods to amplify DNA by different cycles as Kary Mullis, the inventor of the PCR process explained many times in interviews. So using or replacing any PCR "test" for so-called "diagnostic purposes" is useless. Selling "PCR" "diagnostic" "tests" (like virus myths) is just a farma $ grift.

"Drosten fraudulent PCR test" > Mar 30, 2025 -"There was Never COVID Pandemic" - Dr Lidiya Angelova - https://angelovalidiya.substack.com/p/there-was-never-covid-pandemic

"Use of the PCR test was essential to create the illusion of a ‘pandemic’ - Dr Lidiya Angelova was one of the group of 22 scientists who, in 2020 exposed the fraudulent science behind the Drosten PCR test." -

"'SARS-COV-2' was never isolated. Despite my and other people's efforts to explain that there was never an infectious agent causing COVID, people continue to believe in its existence because indoctrination [massive world-wide MSM brainwashing & govts' cruel actions] is very effective and people don't want to think. [Or maybe people fear the fascist tactics weaponized by the "controllers"?] People still believe that their governments work for them, even though the evidence is clear: governments work for companies."

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Alexander Rimmer's avatar

Governments can work for both the Lord's and the peasants. It does not need to be exclusively one sided. Obviously not every move will benefit everyone. Often the best way to benefit yourself is by benefitting others at the same time. Perhaps other times a straight out scam works better. Running the world does not strike me as an easy job or one that can be done efficiently by telling the truth to everyone.

I've read a little on PCR. (my wife worked in a forensics lab and as a court expert on the subject many years ago) I had some understanding as to how the scam would work before it was introduced. I still don't know what exactly is being identified or the significance of it.

Even PCR people didn't believe Dresdens BS. But to me that just looked like one level of cover for the operation, kind of like the shooter from the grassy knoll.

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Howard Steen's avatar

Somehow, people have to be better informed that they stop voluntarily submitting themselves to these nonsensical molecular tests. For God's sake, just say NO!

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Philip Joseph's avatar

They, health industry frauds, were not testing for anything. The PCR tests were a convenient con, a means to fraudulently gin up the infected, and died from C- word stats to instil fear and fake legitimacy. They knew the tests were useless as a diagnostic tool and when they had served their purpose of perpetuating the hoax they, CDC, cancelled their recommendation, allegedly because it could not distinguish between flu and C. The reason for that is because there is no difference, both are manifestations of individual symptoms in response to infections, environmental, toxin reactions, parasitic, foreign bacterial, unique to each human. What an exceedingly successful scam! Never again!

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Research Integrity's avatar

Thanks for the new details. Certainly shocking how much room there is for manipulating people. Interesting for control experiments. Lots of possibilities for proving the non-specificity of tests.

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Rod Knoll's avatar

As I expected, Kary Mullis worshippers foolishly made their presence known in these comments! Bless their hearts! LOL! They certainly are PERSISTENT!

SO AM I! LOL!

If anyone needs a refresher on who Kary Mullis REALLY was and why he was a FRAUD as a scientist AND as a "dissident",

Start here:

1. https://docs.google.com/document/d/1fbpYott1Mdw_BuuiE6_rjO_7Xr5Z_PdoxtK3fNZI9Gc

Then how about reading this post which is from right here on Jamie's substack:

2. https://controlstudies.substack.com/p/kary-mullis-dancing-naked-in-the

Follow those with these or just read them all in your own order:

3. https://longtimedissident.substack.com/p/the-mullis-mirage

4. https://longtimedissident.substack.com/p/new-kary-mullis-was-not-killed-by

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Corona Studies's avatar

For (really broad) context I feel everyone should read "The Invisible Rainbow" by Arthur Firstenberg (RIP).

Something clicked when I realised the emphasis on germ theory and then genetics (and now digital) coincided with the systematic downplaying of the role of electricity, which used to be considered THE essential life force, before it was conveniently redefined as little more than a harmless/ inert power source for electrical gadgets and industry.

I believe the unravelling of 'Rockefeller medicine' will result in electricity being put back at the centre of the picture. This is will be bad news for the industrialists, especially the wireless industry.

Anyway, the point is don't throw out your old ethernet cables and 'house phones' just yet! :) And read Arthur's book!

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Jamie Andrews's avatar

Agreed... and like that book and Arthur's work.

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Proton Magic's avatar

You can find holes in Arthur's work if you look a little, he was also a climate change pusher. In this post

https://arthurfirstenberg.substack.com/p/nophone/comment/60297179

Arthur says "The fantastic rise in diabetes and obesity are purely a result of the slowing of metabolism due to interference with electron flow in everyone’s mitochondria."

I replied to him:

👉Arthur, there are very few obese persons in Japan though they are constantly on mobile phones and in packed trains surrounded by phones. So this doesn't make sense, but skyrocketing processed foods and drinks causing obesity in the US from the 20 yrs before phones came out does. Seems he wants the reader to ignore the processed food topic.

- No reply from him

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Jamie Andrews's avatar

Interesting thanks... there are always going to be holes in any attempt at a unifying theory... I don't trust anyone.. just enjoyed the basic concept of his work.

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Proton Magic's avatar

Now, speaking about holes in one's work, Sam Bailey et al., have repeatedly said the pcr has molecular specificity but not diagnostic specificity. What a pile of rubbish to say the least.

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Jamie Andrews's avatar

Yeah lol... well that is what someone sponsored by a PCR testing company would say.

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Proton Magic's avatar

Details please, pretty please....🙃

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Alexander Rimmer's avatar

Classic controlled opposition move. Not saying electricity it has no effect on anything but..... The obvious one is simply known poisons being introduced and increased in the food and water supply. But that's pretty boring and very obvious.

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Proton Magic's avatar

AF’s climate change pushing shows he is CO, but EMFs are and did lots of damage

https://protonmagic.substack.com/p/isolated-at-last

You need to read all the links.

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pobrecollie's avatar

There is a substack by Joe Waller I think. He is pretty good on the covid scam, but pushes the climate scam. I am very unsure what to make of him.

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Proton Magic's avatar

Havn't done deep dive into that for this person. Some persons are just not up on some things, some have fallen for the official story and the PR behind it, and some are mandated to claim scam for one and push another. A mosaic of many people doing this is quite confusing to the public and the ones they push go ahead. You can ask Joe why he pushes one but just reading him you can probably guess his answer. But true, there is something incongruent about people who are clearly in the know about one obvioud program but follow another. At the very least they should say they havn't gone deep enough and have no formed opinion.

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pobrecollie's avatar

I have to admit I fell for the climate scam to an extent.

Greta's inorganic rise got me suspicious, then covid demonstrated to me what a lot of crap models of complex systems are. It doesn't take to much digging beyond that to see the whole things is pseduo scientific nonsense. I no longer trust "the science".

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Aixur7412's avatar

One thing that I had a problem with when I was interested in PCR and viral load, and which still seems partly valid here, is how much of the blood-based material is present in the initial PCR sample (i.e. before the supposed multiplication)?

At the time, with the few documents we had access to, I thought there was very little. In fact, I thought we only kept the RNA/DNA. So, that bothered me, since I thought there was no serum from the blood that could influence the result (by having an acidic pH, for example). And for RNA/DNA, I thought there was also extremely little compared to the final quantity, and that it therefore couldn't influence the result (except as part of the official explanation). Indeed, we add nucleotides, primers, etc. to the initial sample. And so, it seemed that the initial amount of RNA/DNA represented a very small proportion of the total final RNA/DNA. We're talking about a multiplication by millions. So, once again, such a small amount of initial RNA/DNA couldn't have influenced the final result. That's what was stumping me. There was definitely something going on, but I couldn't see where it was. Obviously, since I also didn't have your idea of the charge problem, I thought there was definitely a multiplication of particles.

So, given the amount of genetic material introduced, I thought it was possible that the entire reaction actually came from the genetic material introduced. But, in that case, there would have been no influence from the initial blood sample. And so, there should have been enormous variability in the viral load from one test to another. Indeed, given the exponential nature of PCR, we should have had results of around 10,000x differences from one test to another. It would have been completely random. But that didn't seem to be the case.

This is a problem that doesn't exist in antibody tests, since they actually test the initial blood sample. There's no need to add tons of additional material.

To save you time, I did an initial search using your excellent method of using AI.

Depending on the AI, 5 to 10 milliliters of blood are collected to perform a viral load test. And in the RNA/DNA extraction steps, 20 to 50% of the collected volume is used for the main steps of the test, such as viral RNA/DNA extraction and quantification, or 2.5 to 5 ml of serum and RNA/DNA. The problem is that the AI then says that only a few microliters remain at the RNA/DNA concentration and storage stage. So, there's a contradiction with the first statement. And we don't know if it's just RNA/DNA without serum, or if it's with serum.

At the end of the viral load procedure, the AI varies regarding the volume obtained. It's 50 and 200 microliters in one of the responses, 50 to 100 microliters in another, and 20 to 50 microliters in a third.

And the reaction solution would be 20 to 50 microliters. So, it's difficult to estimate the amount of "dry" products added, but given the other responses, it's perhaps 20 or 30 microliters.

All of this requires further investigation to obtain more precise data. But, if we assume that there were 5 microliters of RNA/DNA and serum at the beginning of the procedure, and that at least 20 to 30 microliters of various ingredients were added, we would have a ratio of "added products" to "blood products" of 4 or 5 to 1. In this case, there would be enough blood products to strongly influence the test depending on their electrical charge (and the amount of RNA/DNA present), all without any multiplication of any kind.

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Jamie Andrews's avatar

The other place to look is negative control. They have amplified positive results from water... so with no "dna/rna" in a sample at all.

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Aixur7412's avatar

Yes, that's true. I hadn't noticed that. So, if even the negative control, which is filled with nothing but water and the test reagents, can be positive, then that means that positivity in a viral load test is based solely on the reagents used. Perhaps the so-called "RNA/DNA" introduced plays a little role, but it must mainly be the test reagents that influence the result.

And so, if there is a certain regularity in viral load results, for example, for HIV-positive people, it must be because the labs know the history of these people and adapt the results accordingly.

But then, that means that the medications taken for AIDS have no influence on the result, or a slight influence.

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Jamie Andrews's avatar

It means it is testing for something else. I.e NOT DNA.. it IS testing for charge, however that manifests itself through ions like Magnesium etc perhaps which is one of the reagents.

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Aixur7412's avatar

Yes, it tests the charge, that's for sure. But there's no charge in the water. So, it tests the charge of the reagents. Which means that only the reagents induce a reaction, or almost.

In the "real" test, the one with the supposed blood RNA/DNA, the blood components may play a small role. But it must be the reagents that induce the overwhelming majority of the reaction.

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Aixur7412's avatar

Wonderful ! It's downright magnificent.

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