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Marko M.'s avatar

As someone with deep understanding of the molecular mechanisms supposedly taking place in "virology" this is well written and makes complete sense.

I would love for you to go deep on PCR/nextGen Seq. regarding "virus" detection.

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Jamie Andrews's avatar

Thanks Marko, that is exactly the direction of travel. Stay tuned

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Mojo Cuba's avatar

It’s hilarious that they label pcr results as “detection” when there is an amplification cycles variable that is usually arbitrarily just set by the whims of political bureaucracy 🤣

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Marko M.'s avatar

Yeah it's dumb af.

I myself did qPCR on (((Covid))) samples to measure the performance of Illumina nexGenSeq against for my Masters thesis.

I went to the care ward for patients who supposedly had Covid. Full fcking body suit with a full face shield and double masking. I found it absolutely ridiculous.

I had to make the sick people there (almost exclusively old people) sign an agreement for the ethics board and take a saliva sample as well as a nasal swab.

I collected around 30 samples iirc.

Then I performed qPCR with a CT (cycle threshold) of 32 as cut-off iirc to confirm the presence of (((virus))) before heading to the sequencing (Illumina is mfck*ng expensive!).

And what did the fluorescence signal show? These supposedly highly infectious patients were all over the place. For some the fluorescence signal triggered with CTs of 25 and for some only after 40. After 40 doubling cycles you can find anything in any complex sample like saliva....

So yeah, I knew then and there that I am working on some fucking baloney bullsh*t.

When they said I had to get injected or else I cannot continue coming to the hospital for my Masters work I said fuck it and actually aborted my studies.

After having passed all the exams and only having half a semester of practical work on my Master thesis left I said fuck this clown show, I'll get by with my B.Sc.

Thanks for reading my little rant.

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Jamie Andrews's avatar

I would like to pick your brains a bit on this if possible? Here or in private whatever works best for you.

Just in general most sick people tested positive so there was some sort of correlation to disease? Correct?

But the severity of disease did not seem to correlate to CT to you? That is what you seem to imply above?

Were they Nasal Pharyngeal samples or all different types? Did you see any correlation with different types of samples? Did you see any correlation with maybe viscosity of fluid in the sample? Like big mucus globules testing more positive/ quantity of sample etc.

Were the patients expelling lots of BALF/Mucus like Pneumonia/Bronchitis?

Were there any say distinctive smells about patients? Say Sulphur or anything like that?

You get my drift and line of questioning... any feedback would be of help.

Cheers

J

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GMG's avatar

I worked at Nottingham University which is basically owned by Pfizer and Astra-Zeneca. The Uni developed its own saliva test in 2021 and encouraged ALL staff and students to spit into a plastic thimble device EVERY DAY for months.

Obviously I ignored this pantomime but it was amazing to see everyone fall in line. I emailed the staff member put in charge of this charade and asked them how it worked (mechanism), and what the Operational False Positive Rate was for the test. No reply (obviously). I imagine they were funded by Pfizer or AZ in this endeavour and that they sent all the thimbles to landfill straight away each day. They had a masked volunteer student come round each day with a trolley to collect the samples. Pitiful behaviour.

You, Marko, should probably be working on this project with Jamie, don't you think?

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Marko M.'s avatar

Thanks for the comment, interesting read! It was disgusting to see people go willingly through all the humiliation rituals.

I am just a random dude from Austria, who has a normal sales job and is accumulating as much BTC as possible to escape the incoming slavery. :D

I will see if I can donate to the cause though (after the bullrun reaches it's local top in Q1-Q2), because the work that Jamie is doing is groundbreaking and immensly important.

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Susan Creed's avatar

Hats off to you Marko !

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Virginia Stoner's avatar

By any chance were you doing your research in the NYC metro area in Spring 2020? That is where most of the casualties occurred in the first death spike. The data for this mass casualty event is here: https://www.virginiastoner.com/nyc-mass-casualty-event

If you were in that area of the US, I am also interested in whether by chance radiation levels were ever tested in the sick.

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Marko M.'s avatar

Hey Virginia. I did the research in Vienna Austria at Kaiser-Franz-Josef hospital in spring 2021.

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The Word Herder's avatar

It's not a test. It's not a "detection" device. I keep seeing this coming up, which just keeps pointing toward how profound the Conditioning is. The PCR is an AMPLIFIER. It does not diagnose, anything, ever. It doesn't "FIND" anything, it just makes more of what you've already got. THEN maybe you can find something!

Why did they tell us the PCR is a "test"? So they could find people who were gullible, tell them they're "Positive" for "Covid" and -- wait for it-- VAX THEM. Did I mention this is a genocide going on? Sorry if I sound snarky, but this is almost a DAILY thing.

So saith the dog, and that's after hearing it from Kerry Mullis' mouth, via videos I saw back in 2020-- "They" (Fauci's Death Squad, I'd imagine) killed him in Aug 2019, for bad-mouthing the "Great" Dr. Faux-chi. This I know to be Truthy. THIS I would never get wrong. I not sure if those videos exist anymore, but they've got some "out there" that are very rude, because "they" have to make him look stupid or goofy. Yep, he did LSD, and he also won the Nobel Prize. Okay, bye. (Hi, Jamie! Love your work!-- sorry I'll talk more to you next time, but... do you know about Christine Massey? I expect you do, but if not, she's got a page on SS you'd like. Good post! xo)

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Marko M.'s avatar

Spot on... but hey at least he died 3 days before Epstein so all the public attention was on that.... on Wikipedia there is nothing on his death cause, interesting!

Good to see so many people awake on this app.

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The Word Herder's avatar

Thanks. I've noticed that most of the POSITIVE info about him is vanished...

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Frances Leader's avatar

Don't mention Christine Massey! She is one of the No Virus celeb wannabes that have given many of us the benefit of her very bossy ways.

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Jamie Andrews's avatar

She is a complete nutjob.

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The Word Herder's avatar

Why do you say that?

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Jamie Andrews's avatar

Because she actively tried to destroy my project suggesting I be removed from it and have someone else like Cowan or Kaufmann installed.

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Irene The Insomniac's avatar

that's very interesting... she's just a bureaucrat if I remember correctly, isn't she? good at FOIAs but how does that make her Queen of the World?

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The Word Herder's avatar

I found the Kerry Mullis thing to be one of the early clues as to just how EVIL this whole this really is. Since he was dead before the BAT came along (roll eyes here), he's been Thoroughly Smeared by the Nasties, and those who just believe whatever they read. I always stand up for him because he's been so maligned. All I've seen is smears, I haven't seen any REAL evidence that he was a fraud or some sort of liar... or whatever... Maybe he wasn't a sweet, bow & scraper kind of guy, but !!! Why should he be? HE STOOD UP TO FAUCI waaaaay back there. And he was quirky, but brilliant.

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Jamie Andrews's avatar

That is very emotive... I could say... just because Jeffery Dahmer is dead I should not speak bad of him... Kary Mullis was a fraud and an establishment type that arguably has done MORE damage than Fauci with his fraudulent test.... Without Kary Mullis and his invention 2020 would never have happened so by supporting him really you are supporting what happened in 2020.

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James True's avatar

Virus is just a protein shell with information inside. Cytokines are protein shells. Exosomes are protein shells. Extracellular vesicles are protein shells.

Cellular absorption proves of gain of function.

It’s been impossible to have a rational discussion about this with anyone in the antivirus crowd because it’s turned into an angry cult.

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MarcusBierce's avatar

What’s a viruse now, James True? Maybe reread some posts here.

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James True's avatar

If someone in the anti-virus movement wanted to talk about virus they would have an approached me a long time ago. All I see are kindergarten gotcha statements like “you need to read” this is your only argument.

The problem is I do read.

The problem is I read more than you.

The problem is you don’t know what a charlatan is and you don’t want to.

All of this I learned from reading.

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MarcusBierce's avatar

I’m not making an argument. I asked you a question. Happy you read. Now, what is a virus? Or don’t bother

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Frances Leader's avatar

Gain of function is a psy-op sub narrative, James. The only thing being done in bio-labs is the creation of poisons. It is true that the word VIRUS means poison in Latin. So when these main stream scientists say they are genetically altering a virus what are they actually saying? They are admitting that they are using biological material as the foundation for a poisonous invention which can be patented and that is valuable to them.

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The Word Herder's avatar

Really? I've found her to be very knowledgeable, and nice. She has taken a LOT of shit for her stance.

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Frances Leader's avatar

She is great unless you mention 5G then she comes out with the claws and she is relentless. She tried arguing me down for DAYS and did not stop until I stated that the bullying she was using suggested that she was trying to control my opposition. She keeps well away from me since then.

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MarcusBierce's avatar

Just subscribed to you though I’ve read some of your work and even had some back and forth with you. Can you point me toward the best. Substackers on the 5G and perhaps graphene oxide issues?

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Frances Leader's avatar

There are a few Substackers who write about electro-magnetic radiation in general such as Arthur Firstenberg, Roman Shapoval, Norman James, Keith Cutter. Each of them writes with a slightly different emphasis or angle on the subject so all are useful.

I am the only one who correlates 5G with Covid19.

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The Word Herder's avatar

People are likely to say that about me, too! ^_^

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Andi West's avatar

Yes, those Kary Mullis videos do still exist. https://blastedreality.substack.com/p/the-misapplication-of-meaning

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The Word Herder's avatar

Good! Thanks.

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Esme N's avatar

are you aware of the role that the hero stoner Mullis played in convicting a man found guilty of 'infecting' women with the non existent hiv virus?

he is not hero he's a dude that produced the machine that enabled the covid fraud and was likely a member of the big club. all the frauds who get award nobel prizes are.

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Rod Knoll's avatar

Hi esme, I have written an analysis of Kary Mullis' actions he chose to take during that case you mentioned, the Parenzee case. It is at this link:

https://longtimedissident.substack.com/p/was-mullis-more-machiavellian-than

Also, PLEASE SEE my other comment in this thread at this link:

https://controlstudies.substack.com/p/we-have-proved-viruses-dont-exist/comment/89644084

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Esme N's avatar

Thanks Rod, i’m now following your stack and will catch up on the Mullis info and the AIDS debacle. To think how many years I and so many others have lived in fear of contracting that…. for me the truth has only been revealed since late 2020..

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The Word Herder's avatar

You’ve fallen for the smear campaign. He’s DEAD and can’t defend himself. Your comment is exactly why I defend him. I did research on him BEFORE most people had a CLUE about this whole fraud, like in about March or April of 2020. Did you read that somewhere and simply believe it? Or do you have evidence?

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Esme N's avatar

hello :)

more than a couple of years back i came across this evidence which is provide a link to here:

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1FKjXScNVfVdvXjG7UjwYzxbtNjnnwt33G9sPEwfrNuE

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The Word Herder's avatar

Uh. Okay. So you find ONE site (Google? Really?), can't see who is behind it other than Google, and that's your "evidence"? Really? I'm not going to argue with you, you seem like your heart is in the right place, so

I will tell you this: FAUCI, a murderer of children and gay men and torturer of puppies (PLENTY of evidence of these), a complete and recognized psychopath, went to GREAT LENGTHS to smear Mullis, who DID win a Nobel Prize for his work-- and yes, of course he had a team, but it was HIS WORK. He died suddenly (!!) after going around bad-mouthing Fauci and calling him out for being a fraud... and he IS a fraud.

Fauci has done a LOT of smearing himself, but consider this, too:

What is the MAIN tool that was and is STILL being used to "diagnose" a fake disease called "Covid"? That's right, the PCR. It's not a TEST, as I said before. This is not my OPINION. This is a FACT, and other scientists have come forward to say that, too. They are swept under the radar... I am a nobody, not a scientist, just someone who happened to be paying attention to this waaaaaaay back there, before all the smearing went nuclear, and I am not an idiot, either. There are times when I feel quite comfortable INSISTING on something, and I feel comfortable insisting on the fact that the PCR is NOT A DIAGNOSTIC TOOL. Period. I have seen numerous people who ARE scientists saying this as well, and like me, they are attacked and this whole thing is buried.

It's good to understand just how DEEP this conspiracy, this false narrative of a "pandemic" goes. Keep digging. It's also good to understand what it would mean if the TRUTH about the PCR was to go global... And THAT is why I keep harping on it. Cheers.

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The Word Herder's avatar

I guess what it boils down to is this:

Regardless of what anyone wants to believe about Kerry Mullis, the PCR

IS NOT A DIAGNOSTIC TOOL. IT IS NOT A "TEST."

As long as I keep hearing and seeing that phrase, "the PCR Test" I will continue to bark my head arf about it. :)

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Skygoddess's avatar

I always found Kary unpretentious and calling things as he saw them— rather bluntly… refreshingly so…(I have enjoyed several of his recorded interviews and “talks” but lack the scientific background to judge .. imho;)

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Esme N's avatar

its not google. its a set of documents that the writer makes available to read on google docs. its a sharable file and the writer had or has a telegram channel.

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Desmond Powell's avatar

Again it shows that a group of people (No Virus Inc) can distract a whole movement with complete nonsense.

- They coined the phrase "you can't prove a negative" and everyone parroted along.

- They made Mullis a hero and everyone parroted along.

- They made Crowe a hero and everyone parroted along.

- They made Duesberg a hero and everyone parroted along.

- They popularized Vitamin D and everyone parroted along.

- They popularized Methylene blue and everyone parroted along.

- They advertise drinking your own urine and everyone parroted along.

- They advertise spoon bending and everyone parroted along.

- They make David Icke a poster boy and everyone parroted along.

By Sunny:

- Ivermectin and Fenbendazole

- Gain of function narrative

- Bumbling politician narrative

- All the spoon fed heroes the perception management prepared for the counter narrative followers and anything whatsoever they recommended beyond sun and good nutrition

What else are they up to?

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Jamie Andrews's avatar

Quite... Let's hope they have exhausted all of their nonsense and more to the point more people start to ignore them.

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GH's avatar

The nonsense generating machines will never stop. It's going to take a type of low-intellectual rejection to make them change directions for 60 years as they avoid public contamination.

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Pamela A Everett Goodman's avatar

Grifting people with MLM special confluence cults. For a fee you can bend spoons, wear magic stem cell patches, bang on drums and learn to let your inner child out in a field singing kumbaya.

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The Word Herder's avatar

And what is wrong with Kerry Mullis, for that matter?

He's dead, so I'm going to defend him. Are you talking about the PCR being diagnostic? Because he tried very hard to fix that BS before they offed him. Just sayin.

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Sonny's avatar

To your list

Ivermectin and Fenbendazole

Gain of function narrative

Bumbling politician narrative

All the spoon fed heroes the perception management prepared for the counter narrative followers and anything whatsoever they recommended beyond sun and good nutrition

The list is significant

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The Word Herder's avatar

I think you've got a bit of a mixed thing there.

What, for example, is wrong with Vitamin D?

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Jamie Andrews's avatar

its rat poison

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The Word Herder's avatar

LOL So am I. ;)

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Telestai Nexus's avatar

What is the mechanism for the toxicity in rats?

The mechanism of Vitamin D3 (cholecalciferol) toxicity in rats, as used in rodenticides, involves disrupting calcium homeostasis, leading to a cascade of physiological damage. Here’s how it works, step by step:

1. Excessive Absorption of Calcium

Ingestion: Rats consume bait containing a high dose of cholecalciferol (e.g., 0.075% concentration, translating to thousands of times their normal requirement).

Metabolism: In the liver, Vitamin D3 is converted to 25-hydroxyvitamin D (25-OH-D), the circulating form. Then, in the kidneys, it becomes 1,25-dihydroxyvitamin D (1,25-(OH)2-D), the active hormone.

Action: This active form binds to Vitamin D receptors (VDRs) in the intestines, dramatically increasing calcium (and phosphorus) absorption from the gut into the bloodstream.

2. Hypercalcemia Develops

Blood Calcium Spikes: Normal rat blood calcium levels (around 9-11 mg/dL) shoot up far beyond this range due to the overdose. Levels can exceed 15-20 mg/dL, a state called hypercalcemia.

Feedback Failure: Normally, the body tightly regulates 1,25-(OH)2-D production via parathyroid hormone (PTH) and other signals. The massive external dose overwhelms this system, bypassing natural controls.

3. Systemic Damage from Excess Calcium

Calcification: High calcium levels cause mineral deposition in soft tissues, especially the kidneys, blood vessels, and heart. This is called metastatic calcification, where calcium salts harden and impair organ function.

Kidney Failure: The kidneys try to excrete excess calcium, but this overworks them. Calcium deposits form in renal tubules (nephrocalcinosis), leading to acute kidney injury. Dehydration from impaired kidney function worsens the damage.

Cardiovascular Effects: Hypercalcemia disrupts heart electrical activity, causing arrhythmias, and calcium deposits in arteries increase blood pressure or block flow.

4. Organ Failure and Death

Toxicity Symptoms: Rats experience lethargy, weakness, loss of appetite, and vomiting as organs fail over 1-4 days (depending on dose).

Lethal Outcome: Death typically results from kidney failure, heart failure, or a combination of multi-organ shutdown due to the calcium overload.

Key Factors in Rats

Dose: A lethal dose for rats is around 10-50 mg/kg of body weight (equivalent to 400,000-2,000,000 IU/kg), far exceeding their normal need (about 1,000 IU/kg of diet).

Small Size: Rats weigh 200-300 grams, so a small amount of bait (e.g., a few grams) delivers a massive relative dose compared to a human.

Rapid Effect: The high potency of rodenticide formulations ensures the process unfolds quickly enough to be effective, though it’s still slower than some acute poisons.

In essence, Vitamin D3 toxicity in rats hijacks its natural role in calcium regulation, turning a vital process into a lethal one by pushing it to extremes. The same mechanism could theoretically harm humans, but the dose required is so much higher (due to our size and metabolism) that it’s not a practical risk under normal circumstances.

That's why .... I was following this Agent guy too but he is into flat earth and that is clearly a NO GO .... Vitamin D3 is also useful like K2 for teeth and calcium in low doses is not that bad !

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Ben's avatar

Can your work be directed towards culling bird flu? Sadly most farmers have no idea of the flimsy foundations of virology resulting in the sacrifice of 1000’s of animals and the destruction of the human livelihoods that depend on them. Joel Salatin seems to be one of the few farmers with any reach who questions the sense of the authorities ‘kill ‘em all to be safe’ approach, could he be persuaded perhaps? https://www.fwi.co.uk/livestock/poultry/layers/over-a-million-layers-to-be-culled-as-bird-flu-strikes-indoor-flock

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Jamie Andrews's avatar

Am working on it ATM....

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Ben's avatar

Interestingly Ukraine have recently started an import drive of their factory farmed eggs into the UK at prices that undercut the cheapest homegrown output by around 25%, odd what stands out nowadays in the mind of a coincidence theorist, an eggistentialist threat or opportunity?

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Doug Leclair's avatar

Great work again Jamie!

An interesting story about The Weston A Price Foundation.

A very close friend of mine, Meg, was a Chapter leader for them years ago. She remembers Dr. Tom Cowan, Dr. Kaayla Daniel and of course Sally. We all have the Nourishing Traditions cookbooks along with the Moosewood. Focusing on biodynamic nutrition, raw milk and carnivore diets.

Your Weston A Price podcast has been a significant source for me waking up many in my circle.

Thank you again.

Truth, Love, Justice and Freedom!

Let food be thy medicine.

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Jamie Andrews's avatar

Thank you Doug! All power to you mate.

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Marko M.'s avatar

Q: Just in general most sick people tested positive so there was some sort of correlation to disease?

A: Exactly. I'd have to search up my excel file with the results for exact numbers. From my memory most of them were indeed positive (= CT below 32). There were a couple outliers with CTs above that (36 and 40 iirc).

When I get back from my holiday I'll try to dig up my writings/excels.

Q: But the severity of disease did not seem to correlate to CT to you?

That is what you seem to imply above?

A: It wasn't intensive care but I was told these patients were highly positive, highly infectious and highly at risk. I couldn't get all of the patients in the ward to sign. I visited around 45 patients, so around 30 signatures was a big win in my book (as this was also the minimum required for being a serious publication for statistical reasons). I am telling you this because a very small amount of them were either sleeping or obviously in bad shape (vent). The vast majority tho seemed to do pretty fine. So I cannot draw any conclusion between severety and CT, as I haven't thought about that at all, at the time.

Q: Were they Nasal Pharyngeal samples or all different types?

A: The goal of the study was to evaluate if one could reliably detect (((covid))) from saliva samples via nextGenSeq. This was a relevant consideration because people obviously hate being nose f*cked with swabs... Therefore, from the same patient a nasal swab as well as a saliva sample was taken.

Interestingly, especially with some of the older patients, it was quite challenging for them to produce enough spit.

Q: Did you see any correlation with different types of samples?

A: Can't tell from memory, sorry need to check my writings.

Q: Did you see any correlation with maybe viscosity of fluid in the sample? Like big mucus globules testing more positive/ quantity of sample etc.

A: Can't answer sadly because I didn't consider to note down the samples' properties/condition. Seems I would have made for a shitty scientist in hindsight xD

Q: Were the patients expelling lots of BALF/ Mucus like Pneumonia/Bronchitis

A: What I can say from memory is that there were some naaaasty saliva samples among them (i.e. yellow mucus etc). Can't remember exactly how much but from faulty memory maybe 5-10 out of 30.

Q: Were there any say distinctive smells about patients? Say Sulphur or anything like that?

A: Sorry I cannot confirm or deny, with 2 masks on and a faceshield I smelled mostly plastic and a sea of isopropyl alcohol.

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Sasha Latypova's avatar

the patients couldn't produce enough spit because they were being deliberately dehydrated to achieve the kidney damage that would push them on the vent and earn the hospital $40,000+20% bonuses including bonuses for all staff. They were on remdesivir (being poisoned to shut down the kidneys, too). They were in the covid murder ward, deliberately subjected to the murder protocol, the ward was operated by the military cartel renting spece from the hospital floor and paying the hospital lavishly to shut up and look the other way. The reason they tested "positive" may also have to do with dehydration, and forced masking as all of this increases acidity levels.

Good for you giving the finger to the vax pushers in your masters program.

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Peter Preston's avatar

Has anyone done electromicroscopy on the saliva and phlegm of a person suffering an obvious heavy cold or flu and compared this with an obviously healthy person, or on the same person when sick and then when healthy? Wouldn't this be revealing in terms of cellular debris?

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Amaterasu Solar's avatar

An awesome piece!!! I hope everyOne reads it!!!

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Pamela A Everett Goodman's avatar

The one thing you were successful in isolating are the yawnfest woo woo betacuck YouTube grifters though. So another win. 😂

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Jamie Andrews's avatar

LMFAO !!!!

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Howard Steen's avatar

This sounds like great progress, Jamie. I have to get my thick head around all of this and my goal at some point would be able to further reduce the arguments to the point where it would be easy for a child of 8 to comprehend because that is what will be needed for widespread consumption and acceptance. This is an art of communication in itself where I hope others may also be engaged and well ahead of anything I can ever come up with. I regard what you’ve been doing here as very essential scientific work. I hope that despite all the unpleasant exchanges you have faced some level of civil discourse can return to the debate and that these essential experiments continue to guide us to a better understanding of the reality of what does and does not cause disease.

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Jamie Andrews's avatar

Hi Howard, I am more than happy to do an Interview to break down the studies in the most easy to understand principles. Let me know if this is of interest to you. Kind Regards Jamie

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Howard Steen's avatar

Thanks, Jamie. Yes, it is of interest. But first I’d like some time to get my head around what you are saying here and make sure for myself that I can explain your argument to my satisfaction to a third person. Only by doing that will I be prepared to ask some relevant questions in a video. So I will get back to you if and when I feel ready, if that is OK.

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Jamie Andrews's avatar

Of course… take your time.

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Thomas Gilligan's avatar

sorry: deal with nano-level phenomena, and there’s nobody who’s isolated a sole virus for visual verification - I’m resigned to viewing belief in them akin to claiming fairies or leprechauns exist. I’d like to be proven long but until then the only tenable way to “follow the science” is to relegate virology to being a myth about unseeable mini-monsters in our bodies.

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Thomas Gilligan's avatar

meant “proven wrong”

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Simon Gruffydd Foster's avatar

It's one think to prove the probable non-existence of viruses. It's another thing altogether to overcome general superstitions given our mass school-shaped culture.

What we're dealing with here is a ground-shaking paradigm shift in how we perceive our health and the threats to it.

Paradigm shifts can happen quickly although the lead up to them can seem tortuously slow. But it always starts with a core group of contrarians who stubbornly stand on Truth in opposition to the World Wide Web of Lies that surround us.

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Baya Lazz's avatar

There is cognitive dissonance. The dominant culture does not believe in the virus. People need to understand the abuse cycle and get out of the cognitive dissonance.

https://youtu.be/jp5YHxJhj94?feature=shared

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Joel's avatar

Grok did a perfect representation

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Jamie Andrews's avatar

brilliant wasn't it... just straight-face lol

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Pastor Ricardo Beas's avatar

Hi Jamie, I wrote a study on the existence of viruses, which has information that you might not have considered in your search for the answer to this very important question in our Activist Against Forced Vaccination community. It would be my honor to have you read it and provide input. Below is the link. Blessings. Pastor Ricardo Beas. https://thenaturallawchurch.com/wp-content/uploads/VIRUSES-On-The-Existence-of-Viruses-Pastor-Ricardo-Beas-Study.pdf

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Jamie Andrews's avatar

thanks Ricardo will give it a look

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Pastor Ricardo Beas's avatar

Hi Jamie, have you read my study? I would appreciate your comments. Blessings. Pastor Ricard Beas

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David S's avatar

It seems like rather than finding horses and calling them unicorns, what we are seeing out of the establishment is a complete fabrication, a xenomorph. This is something they made up so anything they find can be called a unicorn. They have refined their definition of xenomorph as it behooves them to make the definition more like what has been found. It’s not the same as taking a horse and adding a horn. They don’t have a base thing that they started with that exists. It was manufactured in imagination from the get go. It’s very much like when early medicine blamed “ill vapors” for spreading disease. Something was floating in the air and it made those that inhaled it sick. Sound familiar? Of course they never could prove airborne transmission because they couldn’t prove transmission because they couldn’t prove the xenomorph in question even existed. So they put together a nice word salad and insisted everyone have some, no matter how distasteful it was. And mainstream medicine bought into the idea all while knowing it wasn’t true or even coherent. It was a way of separating out those that would not toe the line. The question, rather than being about the science, became about your license and your position. That was magnified by the individuals inability to disprove what was being promoted as science fact from the upper echelons. It’s a devious and masterful bit of construction.

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Joey's avatar

While I am a person of “ordinary” intelligence, I thank you for writing in such a way that I can understand. I may not fully understand the scientific terminology, I can research if I choose, you present it for the lay person in my estimation. I also understand the pure evil permeating our world and that even the deceivers are being deceived. The key is questioning our once preconceived beliefs, rather indoctrination, and allow that most history, science, etc., has been manipulated and altered. If we shut our minds to that fact, we’ll never see truth.

As a disciple of Jesus Christ, our Creator is revealing for many, these truths. It’s all very clear for me.

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The "mantra" that I have heard often repeated is "It is difficult to prove a negative", which is closer but still not quite right (because some negatives can easily be proven). From my simplistic way of looking at things, when the "debaters" switch the argument to "You can't prove a negative", they are starting with a false premise, and we know how far that goes.

I'm coming into this comment section fresh out of a 5-hour database software debugging session in which I discovered a bug in a bug fix of mine, hunted it down using a process resembling the scientific method, fixed it, and validated the results using validation (control) queries that demonstrated the successful fix given the test scenario. Ultimately, anyway. The tests first demonstrated that part of the fix still failed, and I had to partially fix the new fix before it would fully validate. At no time were any unicorns harmed or even spotted.

After that, and having delayed my lunch yet again (I had it late in the evening yesterday), it's a little hard for me to think of a good example of proving a negative, but it's really not that hard. It depends on what you are proposing to prove! But my validation queries fit the pattern. I can't prove that there are no bugs remaining in the code, but I did prove that after fixing this bug there are no records remaining in the database that contain this specific error I was fixing, and that similar newly-created records do not contain the error. It doesn't prove that there are no other possible scenarios that could surface the error again, but the fix was applied at a choke point in the code that makes that very unlikely.

Now without further delay, I'm going to go fix lunch, and the proof will be in the eating, although no pudding will be involved.

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