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Pretty crazy that they say some wild figure like 100 million died and most of us just bought it for most of our life. Tell a big enough lie often enough and people will believe it. Glad so many of us are waking up.

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It is literally that " tell a lie big enough...." it makes it seem that questioning it at all would seem absurd... it must have been everywhere people dying on the streets, piling up bodies... but that is what they will say happened in 2020 right.

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The EMPTY hospitals, etc etc...

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Remember the stupidity of the tik tok videos of dancing docs and nurse? So blatantly in our faces that this was bs.

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Yes, I was stunned by how EVIL that was... I took it as them being HAPPY to be PAID to end people's "suffering," as in, their lives...

But I donut know.

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Yes and then president trump himself saw all the refrigerated mobile morgues! So it must be true.

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Just like the Holocaust hoax: repeat “6 million died” enough and people will believe it!

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Had you even heard of it before 2020? I hadn't.

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Nope

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First I heard of the 'Spanish Flu' was some years ago watching the film 'Outbreak' when Donald Sutherland mentioned it. Methinks a tad bit of predictive programming there. You would think something that big that killed so so many people would have been taught about in schools. I'm 50, and it certainly wasn't mentioned when I was in school. Funny that.

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I have tried to inform people that Rosenau was one of the 'Mad Scientists' working around the world to perfect the the development of the Mass Murder Weapon that became known as Vaccines. He is mentioned in Charles Richets (President of the European Eugenics Society) book on Anaphylaxis. Richet coined the word Anaphylaxis and not surprisingly got the fraudulent Nobel Prize for it! The book details the incredible exhaustive horrific attempts by Rosenau and his like to refine the discovery that one injection of a simple harmless protein (Milk) can, on the 2nd injection of the same harmless protein, kill a dog (and other animals) in 10 minutes. This was after waiting 21 days between the 1st and 2nd injection. (Remember Pfizers instruction to WAIT 21 DAYS before taking the 2nd jab?) What better person than Rosenau to attempt to kill healthy young men 'volunteers' by exposing them to what was at the time regarded as a DEADLY FLU. He must have been so disappointed when they all survived without infection............

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Interesting… I didn't know that about Rosenau… don't worry I don't think of this guy as some “hero” because of these contagion studies… He was clearly a bad egg because he certainly didnt scream these earth shattering findings from the roof tops as he should have done.

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But Jamie, there was no internet in the 1920s and no Substack, so what would have been the point? In the 1920s, if the press barons didn't like what you had to say, nobody could hear you scream. We are assuming that Rosenau accurately reported and published his team's findings in the literature to the best of his ability. That indicates to me that he wasn't such a bad egg as a researcher, especially compared to today's situation, in which medical research fraud is widely considered to be rampant.

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Fair enough observation.

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'Yesterday 'it was just the same as today. Pasteur was roundly condemned in his own time as a fraud and plagiarist. As you say access to information was difficult then. Science was a Brotherhood, as is Modern Medicine. A Network of ignorant men sustaining a facade of respectability. They still use the term 'Brothers' today amongst themselves, away from our prying eyes. Eugenicists were respected worldwide. Churchill was one, attending the London Eugenics Conference. Todays Medical frauds follow a long tradition.

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Control the messaging??

Control the media, it's that simple.

Real question is how long have 'they' known that.

If the media didn't say it happened, then it didn't happen, end of discussion.

Nothing to see here folks, now move along.

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"I have tried to inform people that Rosenau was one of the 'Mad Scientists' working around the world to perfect the the development of the Mass Murder Weapon."

Guy ranks right up there with Inspector Jacques Clouseau.

I'm surprised he didn't have a select group ingest bullets to see if in some Mad Scientist way it might cause them to die of a gunshot wound, without actually discharging the weapon.

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Could it be "Rosenow" you referring too, not the "Rosenau" of the transmission experiments?

THE MODIFIED PNEUMOCOCCUS VACCINE OF ...

https://jamanetwork.com › journals › jama › fullarticle

by EC Rosenow · 1922 — THE MODIFIED PNEUMOCOCCUS VACCINE OF ROSENOW. E. C. Rosenow, M.D.. Author Affiliations. Rochester, Minn. JAMA. 1922;79(25):2104.

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Milton Joseph Rosenau (January 1, 1869 – April 9, 1946) was an American public health official and professor who was influential in the early twentieth century.

He has a Wikipedia entry that doesn't mention the Spanish Flu. However, the landmark study of Milton J. Rosenau, MD, “Experiments to Determine Mode of Spread of Influenza,” was published in the Journal of the American Medical Association in 1919.

Here's a link to the text of the article.

https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/article-abstract/221687#google_vignette

Apparently, E.C. Rosenow (Edward to his mates) was a different researcher who worked at the Mayo Clinic for many years. He was involved in developing focal infection theory (whereby a localized bacterial infection, such as a dental infection, can cause illness in other parts of the body) among other things.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Focal_infection_theory

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Focal_infection_theory

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Studies in influenza and pneumonia

Rosenow, Edward Carl, 1875-1966.

Date: [1920?]

https://wellcomecollection.org/works/d5xvzk2j

It's interesting that a Rosenau and a Rosenow were both working in the same field at around the same time.

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Thought I'd see a lot more comments about Rockefeller's Meningococcus Vaccine Trial, according to Brave Browser AI:

"The Rockefeller Institute for Medical Research conducted an experiment on American soldiers at Ft. Riley, Kansas, during World War I. The experiment involved testing a meningococcus vaccine on soldiers, with the goal of preventing meningitis, a bacterial infection.

Details of the Experiment

The vaccine was made in the laboratory of The Rockefeller Institute and was administered to soldiers at Ft. Riley in January 1918.

The vaccine was given to approximately 3,700 volunteers in three doses.

The doses were made from a bacterial meningitis vaccine serum derived from horses.

The experiment was conducted by Dr. Frederick L. Gates, who reported that the vaccine caused flu-like symptoms in some soldiers, including cough, vomiting, and diarrhea.

Controversy Surrounding the Experiment

Some sources claim that the experiment may have contributed to the spread of the 1918 Spanish Flu pandemic, which killed an estimated 50-100 million people worldwide.

However, experts argue that the meningococcus vaccine could not have caused a flu pandemic, as it was designed to tackle a specific bacteria (meningococcus) and a completely different disease.

The H1N1 virus that caused the 1918 flu has been identified and replicated by scientists, and there is no evidence to suggest that the meningococcus vaccine was responsible for the pandemic.

What isn't stated/disclosed is that the 'combination' of a toxic/non-working vaccine (actually giving entire troop personnel a full on bacterial load) mixed with H1N1 as well as close quarters and trench warfare immune challenge (remember, both sides of the conflict were given these injections) likely overwhelmed resistence to the point of death (remember, both sides lost tons of young lives to the same 'disease').

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Bet it is.

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Had not heard of him thanks

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Book title please!

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"Anaphylaxis"

https://archive.org/details/b21296595/page/n3/mode/2up

See pg 42 "All workers have not obtained similar results. Rosenau and Anderson, experimenting on the guinea-pig, observed that urethane, given by...." And pg 82 "Rosenau and Anderson have observed that an injection of placental extract is anaphylactising...."

Richet expressed his eugenicist ideas in his 1919 book La Sélection Humaine.

https://archive.org/search?

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Thank you!

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You're welcome. I've just skim read the 1st few pages & was going to add this to my previous comment;

pg 86 " Rosenau and Anderson only obtained very weak anaphylaxis...." pg 94 "Rosenau and Anderson in 1908 noticed that anaphylactic effects disappeared almost, though not quite, completely..." Lots more quotes like that. H.G. Wells gets a shout out on pg 84! Who'd a thunk it?

This from the "Bibliography"; "Rosenau (E. C), Pneumococcus A. and Immunity {Journ. of Inject. Diseases, 1911, IX, 190). Which is spelt Rosenow "from the memorial institute for infectious disease, Chicago" https://academic.oup.com/jid/article-abstract/9/2/190/820756

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So, Rosenau & Rosenow - same kook?

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I don't think so, Milton J. Rosenau of Boston conducted the transmission study, Edward C. Rosenow/au of Chicago did the anaphylactic study referenced by Charles Richet.

Untill I find evidence that Milton J. conducted anaphylaxis experiments, I will assume that in the mists of time the two have been confused & Edwards C's work has been attributed to Milton J.

As to H.G. Wells; summat in the back of my mind says he did work in microbiology & in War of the Worlds, it was "germs" that "did the Martions in"!

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Isn’t the truth wonderful? Liars hate the truth and they hate us for knowing it. Hopefully you have an archive for all this information that isn’t attached to the outside world because I see a vast scrubbing of data such as this as evidenced by the takedown of the Wayback Machine.

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My wife’s grandfather was a soldier in the First World War, and described to my wife when she was a little girl the privations, injuries and deaths that were so common. He escaped with a piece of shrapnel somewhere (I can’t recall where). By the time he was telling my wife as a child, this was 50 years later, so I suppose he was then in his seventies.

Before the war, he had shown keen interest in mechanics and had begun to study as an engineer but after the war, he went to medical school and had a career as a doctor.

Of all the tales he told her, my wife said that he never once mentioned the tens of millions of people alleged to have died immediately after the war of Spanish flu.

Others have pointed out that in every town & village in Britain, there are monuments put up by local people to commemorate the young men who mostly volunteered & didn’t come home. As a child of the sixties myself, living in such a village in Kent, I would read the names of those on our memorial, often noticing two or even three identical surnames. Whole families were ended. There were a notable number of elderly ladies who looked like nothing much had changed since Edwardian days who I now wonder included those who had been widowed young, or whose betrothed had been killed in Flanders and never met anyone else.

There are no memorials to the alleged dead of the Spanish flu, anywhere.

I’ve done a very rough survey, finding nobody my age (I’m 64) who was taught about the Spanish flu at school. Try it yourself. Those under 25, they all were told about it. My kids certainly were.

A Russian speaker looked up the Russian delegation version of International Health Regulations related to trade and commerce, the first such meeting after the war, in the original Russian.

There’s no mention whatsoever of acute respiratory illnesses at all, flu or otherwise. All the old diseases, like plague, are listed & what to do to minimise problems from cross border trade. Nothing on flu at all.

The conclusion I draw from this is it didn’t happen at all.

It was probably inserted into the medical literature afterwards and then excerpted into the public literature, referring to fraudulent papers. Who would ever go & pull a 1920s manuscript from the British Lending Library? And if they did they’d look authentic.

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Mike, I also did not hear much growing up in England about the flu. It was more about explaining why my family (1950s) was so small after two World Wars (no uncles, aunts or cousins) and why some men didn't have legs or were "shell shocked". Of course we also got the full monty on how us good guys beat the bad guys to cover up Britain's war mongering and empire building. I do get the point of not trusting government data. For example, VAERS is said to only contain 1% of vaccine injuries. There may have been some cover up of records that reveal vaccine injuries in addition to later rewriting of history inserted to blame a pathogen. But who really knows? Virology is, after all, propaganda for the vaccine industry. "Memorials" are to make us feel better about sending young men to die for nothing at taxpayer expense. So no big stones erected to celebrate deaths from diseases spread over several years from 1915 to late 1920's caused by chemical weapons and vaccines..but I repeat myself. There are some contemporary accounts from people like Eleanor McBean "The Poisoned Needle" and "Swine Flu Expose". As a girl she was caring for vaccination victims and none of the unvaccinated carers got sick. Also the report of the Surgeon General 1919 vol 1 pg 37 about vaccine injuries. Similar SG reports in 1918. But I did not see number in the tens of millions. At the time they thought it was Pfeiffer's bacillus not a mythical virus. Do you think the Rosenau reports themselves look made up? He was military so he would not be able to go on Joe Rogan and blow up the scandal.... I just discovered one additional 1918 Flu section in "What Really Makes You Ill" on page 495. One snippet: another reason so much aspirin was used is because the Bayer patent just expired! The co-author, Dawn Lester has reviewed a lot of contemporary accounts to write her book, so we need her to weigh in now! Cheers

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In regard to development of the pandemic industry, also see this article, https://elizabethhart.substack.com/p/is-this-actually-about-creating-a - particularly the reference to the 2006 paper, 'Disease Mitigation Measures in the Control of Pandemic Influenza', and also the 2006 WHO Global pandemic influenza vaccine action plan.

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Did the Spanish Flu mythology develop from when they started messing around with “using fixed and frozen lung tissue of 1918 influenza victims”? https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC2720273/

Looks like they’re creating a back story to develop the pandemic industry?

Also see:

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/16210530/

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In the CDC 1918 vital statistics report for the US (published in 1920 - granted, it is in PDF form), it says there were 477,467 deaths from influenza & pneumonia of all forms and 244,681 deaths from "just influenza". Almost all of this occurred within - it is said - the last 4 months of the year, whereas the preceding 8 months had almost the same number of deaths as 1915 (their point of comparison).

This 477,467 deaths purportedly accounts for a bit more than the entire net increase of deaths from 1,068,932 in 1917 to 1,471,357 in 1918. Male deaths were 806,073 and female deaths were 665,294.

But this is an archived PDF copy of a report purportedly published in 1920 (tabulating 1918 figures).

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Well done Jamie. That information about India was new to me.

There is useful overlap between this and the on-line article at 'What Really Makes You Ill' which is an extract from their must-own book.

https://whatreallymakesyouill.com/infectious-diseases-dispelling-the-myths/

There is also a free article there about the myth of conquistadors spreading smallpox and syphilis to the Americas. Thanks

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Thanks Dave.

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Good book, I'm always referring to it lol

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My grandfather was a survivor of the 1918 flu during basic training. My dad who is 90 will remember the story, but I was told granddad got the "Spanish Flu". I know that he was inoculated because he told me that he got a shot with a needle the size of a nail lol. He was medically discharged after he recovered and fortunately did not have to serve overseas. Interestingly, he survived a copperhead snake bite when he was younger (they were sure he was a"goner").

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Interesting, thanks for the info Julia.

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" I know that he was inoculated because he told me that he got a shot with a needle the size of a nail lol."

various authors have suggested the "shot" had multiple preparations inside it; many it seemed with horse sera, as they were the factories for these agents.

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Well, they certainly thought of a great way to celebrate the 100th anniversary now, didn't they.....

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100 year purge

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Radio was new at the time. EMFs were also a contributlng factor, (As 5G was for "covid") Read "The Invisible Rainow", by Arthur Firstenberg, about how EMFs have affected health all through history.

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That too.

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My father was born in Egypt in 1917. He was brought up to believe that many millions had died worldwide. However, in his extended Egyptian family and among the hundreds of workers and peasants who worked for them, no one died of the flu. My grandfather alone was building a stretch of the Cairo Suez road with hundreds of labourers - there was no machinery in those day. It was all hearsay generated by the yellow press.

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Interesting.. thanks for that info.

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More consistent with aspirin toxicity, yeah -

1) "One such treatment that has gained attention for its potential role in increasing mortality during the 1918 influenza pandemic is one that many Americans today regularly take for its cardiovascular benefits – the seemingly benign aspirin. As a licensed pharmacist, I was trained in school about the concerns associated with administering aspirin to children for whom there is a suspicion of a viral illness, such as chicken pox or influenza, due to a risk of Reye syndrome. This can initially manifest as personality changes or recurrent vomiting before progressing to coma or death with associated brain swelling and fat accumulation in the liver. For adults, toxicity usually presents as abnormal consciousness and respiratory distress."

https://blog.history.in.gov/reflections-and-remedies-the-1918-influenza-outbreak-in-indiana/

2) "After the disease was established the mucous membranes became reddened with sneezing. In some cases there was a hemorrhage of the mucous membranes of the nose and bloody noses were commonly seen. Vomiting occurred on occasion, and also sometimes diarrhea but more commonly there was constipation (JAMA, 10/3/1918). A few physicians associated psychoses with influenza infection. "

https://virus.stanford.edu/uda/fluscimed.html

3) "The Metropolitan Life Insurance Company, in compiling statistics for the initial influenza outbreak, reported that few had died from the disease."

https://www.history.army.mil/covid19/Spanish-Flu1918_On-Point-Magazine-Dr-Bob-Smith.pdf

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It was NEVER about health! The Powers That Should Not Be were ALWAYS about they want you DEAD or a SLAVE every which way from Sunday! This is a painful truth to accept but we the people must wake up and fight back! Poison jabs disguised as 'vaccines' are a huge part of their arsenal.

AUTISM TSUNAMI/SADS/TURBO CANCER/BIZARRE TERMINAL ILLNESSES: More tragic victims of the ruling parasite genocidal enslavement agenda, sacrificed on the altar of psychopathic greed and hatred of humanity.

Can't say this often enough! THESE WEF MONSTERS RUNNING THE WORLD NEED TO BE DEPOPULATED OFF THE PLANET!

I have a landline and a wired laptop and a wired monitor screen, all the tech anyone should ever want or need. I never had and refuse to ever have one of those infernal mobile devices that are designed to enslave you. Albeit, my computer and monitor screen are potentially vulnerable.

CLIMATE CHANGE IS AN EVEN WORSE FRAUD THAN THE PLANSCAMDEMIC! SO-CALLED GREEN TECH IS A GIGANTIC SCAM! MINING AND MANUFACTURING 'GREEN' PRODUCTS NEEDS COAL, GAS AND OIL AND MINING RARE MINERALS IS MORE ENVIRONMENTALLY TOXIC AND DESTRUCTIVE THAN LEGACY PRODUCTS. SCREW YOUR DAMNED GREEN GRIFT AGENDA! https://climateviewer.com

It's always since the dawn of history, been about using knowledge for power and control by the psycho portion of the human population that learned how to manipulate 'normies' to obey them in their power-mad power trips.

In these modern times, this evil has become TECHNOCRACY, the vilest threat to the existence of all life on earth since forever!

THEY can't get rid of the 'useless eaters' fast enough! Mistakes were not made, it was always malice aforethought.

KEEP FIGHTING! All the perps who pushed this greatest crime against humanity, all the way down to the local level, must get their comeuppances!

EW! GROSS! HELL NO! https://www.technocracy.news

NOT MY BRAIN/MIND! NOT MY BODY! NO WAY, NO HOW, NOT PLAYING YOUR AI QUANTUM STUPID-ASS VIDEO GAMES! I AM LIVING IN THE REAL WORLD CREATING ART AND PERFORMANCES!

The more I learn about this stuff, the more sickened, nauseated and horrified I get, and I wonder what kind of inhuman psychopath loonies make this crap and want to use it!?

THIS IS PURE SATANIC EVIL! IT IS MEANT TO DESTROY BILLIONS OF YEARS OF CREATION IN THE ATTEMPT OF TOTAL SLAVERY CONTROL BY POWER-MAD PSYCHOS!

I DO NOT COMPLY! NEVER HAVE, NEVER WILL! May more and more wake up and resist and cultivate their health.

There is a fate worse than death - I would rather die than be a robotized slave of technocratic overlords! This is my hill to die on!

My loathing of AI and all things NANO and digital knows no bounds!

SCREW THE FEAR FAKERY! NO TRUSTING THE WEF RULING CLASS EVER!

Reiterating for the sake of newbies and to support this post.

I have no fear of 'germs' or 'viruses'. One of the best places to go for reality: https://virustruth.net

I try to live without fear! Fear is the mind-killer!

PROPAGANDA CAMPAIGNS BY POWERFUL, WEALTHY CRIMINALS WITH EVIL INTENT CAN CAUSE ALL KINDS OF HAVOC! QUESTION EVERYTHING!

And these, the criminals behind the NAC and all the other schemes will use hypochondria hysteria and 'climate' hysteria to propagandize the gullible 'sheeple' into complying with TOTAL ENSLAVEMENT which is what this is really about!

A vast majority of so-called leaders and Public 'Serpents' around the world have been bribed, blackmailed/coerced into serving the interests of their technocratic New World Ordure parasite masters and not We the People.

GREED is behind every evil assailing us in the world!

The demonic despots of Davos at it again! They are behind everything bad! At it for decades and cronies like The Rothschilds and the Black Nobility and The Khazarian Mafia have been plotting planetary domination for centuries! ALL BECAUSE OF AVARICE!

We the People must try harder to live by The Golden Rule, doing so would solve most problems!

Migrant/Entrant Invasion/Infrastructure Attacks - all part of the destructive plot to achieve total slavery!

Apoplectic livid rage hardly describes the intensity of emotions I have had and am having over what these malignant globalists are perpetrating!

There is no noxious crime that the evildoers desiring to lord it over us won't commit to maintain their stranglehold on power. A groundswell critical mass resistance to their murderous enslavement plans is needed urgently!

Creative performing arts, fine arts and literary arts are the best part of being human and the thing the globalist predator technocrat megalomaniac total slavery control freaks most want to destroy.

Too many 'sheeple' are brainwashed to blindly obey authority figures on the media or in daily life in corrupt system ruled by control freak psychopaths who use propaganda lies to enslave their subjects and they are dumbed down to be obedient by 'education' institutions. Fortunately I was raised to question everything. This transcends party lines. We need a system that punishes psychopaths and rewards compassion and sharing, we need a system that actually follows The Constitution in reality.

Kudos to JAMIE ANDREWS's heroic efforts and success in the struggle. We the People must always be aware of the existential threats lurking behind this fight!

How I stick my thumb in the eyes of the grotesque billionaire bastards pushing their enslavement agenda and how I embrace being fully human.

Fighting the globalist predator technocrat psychopath megalomaniac TOTAL SLAVERY AGENDA one performance at a time!

Amazing Amy: Eccentric Yoga Entertainer!

As an entertainer, I have been devastated and practically destroyed by the closure of all performance venues and then when they reopened, because MY BODY, MY CHOICE - being made a total untermenschen pariah outcast in NAZI NIGHTMARE LAWLESS 'SHOW ME YOUR PAPERS' JAB CROW APARTHEID/DISCRIMINATION/SEGREGATION HELL NYC WHERE THE MAD/DRUNK WITH POWER TYRANT POLS DOUBLE DOWN ON THEIR ILLEGAL MANDATES. I am trapped here with zero financial resources to leave or do anything else about this 'wish I were dead' endless misery life has become. The tragic irony is that my SPREAD THE YOGA LOVE performances are all about health, miraculously overcoming age (69) and injury to achieve feats of flexibility few can attain at any age. So BIG PHARMA who wants to addict every person on the planet to their toxic products hate people like me who prove that we do not need them if we eat healthy organic food and exercise daily!

https://www.reverbnation.com/artist/amazingamycontortionistuniqueyogadancer

I try and live and embody the creative performing artistic world and life I so fervently want existence to be about.

They can stick their f*cking damned NANO, Digital IDs, AI, jabs and chips up their asses where the sun don't shine!

All manner of lies and propaganda spew forth from the upper echelons in governments worldwide who are completely intertwined with the global criminal ruling class that wants to commit the worst atrocities imaginable and suffer no consequences. And their corruption slithers down the chain of command creating petty tyrants everywhere.

We the People are facing HORRIFYING TECHNOCRATIC PSYCHOPATHY TO DESTROY HUMANITY AND ALL NATURAL LIFE!

We must never lose sight of the larger picture of the vile malignance we are fighting against.

There is an insidious global ruling class plot to enslave all life on earth behind all the madness and suffering inflicted on We the People.

How to fight back against this TOTAL SLAVERY!

RESIST! DO NOT COMPLY! DITCH THE DAMNED 'SMART' PHONES AND THE DAMNED QR CODES AND GO BACK TO LANDLINES OR FLIP PHONES AND USE CASH AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE! INSIST ON CASH! CBDC IS TOTAL SLAVERY!

Other than getting rid of nuclear weapons which I support 100% the rest of the anti-nuclear peace movement and CLIMATE CRISIS propaganda is parroting UN utter GARBAGE, a complete surrender to the ENSLAVEMENT AGENDA by the diabolical despots of Davos - ruling class criminals who lust for total power and control and all of whom should be tried and jailed for life and their malign organizations dismantled: the UN, the WEF, the IMF, the WHO, the BIS, NATO, Blackrock, Vanguard, The Rockefellers, the Rothschilds, The Bilderbergers, the CFR et al.

There is an evil predator globalist technocratic elite agenda of eugenics/depopulation/genocide using bioweapon poison jabs, war, geoengineering, EMF radiation, starvation and economic collapse - THE GREAT RESET/AGENDA 2030/4TH INDUSTRIAL REVOLUTION to get rid of billions of 'useless eaters' and to use nano tech to turn the survivors into ROBOTIZED COMPLIANT SLAVES! WAKE UP AND RESIST! DO NOT COMPLY! These are psychopath megalomaniacs who want to play god by turning all life into digitized metaverse mechanistic synthetic biology to be manipulated by their AI algorithms. A more demonic sickening idea is nearly impossible to imagine!

APPALLED AND HORRIFIED AT INSANE TYRANNICAL PROTOCOLS THAT HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH HEALTH AND EVERYTHING TO DO WITH TOTALITARIAN CONTROL! REVERSE THIS NOW!

MAKE THE WORLD AND AMERICA 2019 (comparatively speaking), AND FREE AGAIN!

NO, I AM NOT AFRAID OF THE MORONIC SCARIANT SHMARIANT MONKEYSHINES! WAKE UP ALREADY!

TOTALLY CONDEMN BIDEN AND ALL OTHER POLS WHO HAVE NO POWER TO LAWLESSLY ACT LIKE AN EMPEROR OR DICTATOR AND DECREE JAB CROW 'SHOW ME YOUR PAPERS' FASCIST SEGREGATION/DISCRIMINATION/APARTHEID VIOLATIONS OF THE CONSTITUTION, THE NUREMBERG CODES AND EVERY CIVIL RIGHT IMAGINABLE.

NO GREEN NEW DEALS OR BUILD BACK BETTER FROM THE CRIMINAL TECHNOCRAT TYRANTS KLAUS SCHWAB AND HIS CRONIES FROM THE WORLD ECONOMIC FORUM.

STOP THE TERRIBLE TYRANNY OF THE TECHNOCRATS GLOBAL AGENDA OF TOTAL SURVEILLANCE AND CONTROL USING THE VIRUS AS EXCUSE AND PROPAGANDA TOOL!

NO MUZZLING STIFLING MASK MANDATES! NO FORCED VACCINES! END TORTUROUS DEVASTATING LOCK DOWNS NOW! I WANT MY LIFE BACK.

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FUN FACT: The BBC's Panorama program famously made a documentary about harvesting spaghetti from trees as an April fools joke. But they also did another less well known spoof documentary about the Spanish Flu where they said it was caused by soldiers standing too close to a chicken! They even got a real professor to play along. His deadpan delivery is priceless!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cq8La0nxh0g

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Just watched it. At first I thought it might be an onion sketch lol.

Prof John Oxford "virologist" says it all really!

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Lol

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I remember reading something years ago about the Spanish flu when I believed what I was told that the reason why young men died was because older people had immunity due to a similar flu outbreak 50 or so years earlier.

At the time I had little to no interest in virology, medicine or really the Spanish flu so it made sense, of course I had no idea what really happened

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gosh; 106 years on; so many possible things; some had suggested that young men started getting unwell at Fort Riley? Kansas? after being jabbed for many putative diseases; the sera was said to be prepared from horses, that had been inoculated; I cannot verify all this; but one author suggested this was why so many young and fit men seemed affected;

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You're on it.

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thanks; maybe we can talk a little more on that; I think the Rockefeller folks were very keen on inoculations; there seems great hubris these days that we actually "understand" the immune system; that we have it sorted ...... really?

a recent talk by a colorectal surgeon in the UK on a huge increase in cancers (colorectal) really brings this into play; featured in this video; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1AHJc8D-7Vg at 8mins35sec the surgeon shows a slide of putative mechanisms as to why they might be seeing SO MANY more cancers; surely most could be persuaded our immune system is very complex; he highlights how the immune system may have been damaged or impaired in multiple ways; by certain recent medical interventions; it was fascinating this very capable man has stood up and spoken out;

I only learnt in 2020 that one could think of two components to the immune system; innate and adaptive; many think only of the latter; the adaptive; as they think only of antibodies produced by the B lymphocytes, as I understand it; these may take some days or more to emerge; in response to a new stimulus; a slow, laborious? system ..

folks surely really need to recognise and place front of centre the innate system: I suggest it is like the bouncer at the nightclub; the bouncer does not need to have seen before a dodgy looking guy or guys that approach; he does not need his name; he can sense he is trouble; and can take action immediately; plants have innate systems; mammals seem to have built an adaptive system on top; but it is on top; added;

to what is a substantial, or overwhelming?? system beneath it

curious about ricin, knowing nothing of it; I read the other day "Ricin is a lectin and a highly potent toxin"

Ah; a lectin; I heard of that being something that can cause gut upsets; lectins are "carbohydrate-binding proteins that are highly specific for sugar groups that are part of other molecules"

and bacteria and other things; that are not of us; have these sugar groups on their surface; so the roving things that look for "not-us" find these sugar groups on invaders

and that led me to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mannan-binding_lectin

MBL

mannose-binding lectins: " is a lectin that is instrumental in innate immunity"; we make this in the liver; as do all mammals it seems;

"One way the most-recently discovered lectin pathway is activated"

.. recently discovered; a whole third pathway in addition to what was previously taught as the two definitive pathways: the classical pathway, and the alternative pathway

why do I say all this? The whole world it seems has been mesmerised into thinking only of antibodies; the adaptive, slow, system; all they are allowed to know;

if the vikings invade, you want to repel them on the beach; you don't surely want to want two weeks to organise an army; by that time, they could have done much damage

so the INNATE system is that IMMEDIATE REACTION force; it is immediately ready on the beach, as it were: on the mucosa of the nose or gut; with many mechanisms; to immediately repel invaders; have plenty of Vit D in your system; all immune cells have VDR: vitamin-D receptors

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The body is not designed for invasions of toxins directly into the blood and muscles. Drinking milk is not the same as injecting a small amount into the blood. After 2 weeks, a second injection of a tiny amount of milk into the blood would result in death. It has been tried on dogs.

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You are "on it," with technical stuff, which I am not!

I understand generalities and some of the history... I am not a scientist, but I like to read and get the gist of things... Rockefeller (John D) wanted to find a way to make a PROFIT from the waste generated by refining oil into petroleum. He was giving many of the medical schools in the Eastern US big gobs of money, so they'd be beholden to him... then he had some smart guys figure out how to make drugs out of the same kind of elements that had been used in medicines for many many hundreds, even thousands of years, except SYNTHETIC ones, made from his oil trash! He then told the medical schools to adhere to his SYNTHETIC concoctions instead, or he'd pull their funding. Yes, he was a flaming psychopath, and it sure appears that he was a rabid eugenicist as well.

This was after Pasteur was funded by the French govt. to basically undo science in favor of creating a "science" that brought in MONEY... He was a plagiarist and a killer-- he experimented on many helpless animals but also on PEOPLE, and not with a lot of good results... There's a very good book that came out in I think 1926, called "Bechamp or Pasteur" by Ethel D. Hume, in which she examines in detail the work of both and how Bechamp was RIGHT, Pasteur was WRONG, but the establishment of the newly-forming Medical Industrial Complex went with MONEY, instead of honest medical exploration... The one thing that was bigger than ANY medicine or advance, as far as I can tell, is the advice of Florence Nightingale, who admonished everyone to simply BE CLEAN... When handwashing really took hold, we became MUCH healthier, but not because of the destruction of "germs," only the tamping down of the detrimental effects of exposure to a lot of NASTINESS... such as fecal matter on the hands of children, doctors, cooks, etc etc... Well, you can imagine.

There is some controversy now about whether there actually IS SOMETHING that we'd call an "immune system," because the body seems to not behave in ways that we'd long thought, and simply were not told the truth... But I don't know about that. I DO understand the concept that the bacteria we find in our bodies is only there to help break down tissue that is dead or dying... if I've worded that properly. There are no "viruses" that have ever been found. No "attacking" or airborne pathogens, only toxins in the environment that somehow are ingested or enter through a skin lesion, etc... Spoiled food, tainted water, etc. Perhaps no pathogens at all! I don't know, but it's all sort of up for re-examination... Fascinating stuff.

You might like listening to Drs. Sam and Mark Bailey, Sam Bailey has a SS page, and her short videos are easy to understand-- they give us the basic ideas without a lot of technical information-- Well, SOME technical, but they're done to explain to lay people what's what and why. Pretty good, I'd say. Anyway, cheers! Isn't it exciting exploring all this new stuff? I love it.

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There is an excellent pithy summary of Pasteur VS Bechamp in the new book "Can You Catch A Cold?" by Daniel Roytas. He looked at 203 experiments to test contagion, especially of the common cold. I think ya'll can guess the answer.

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No, but you can "catch" EMF's and CALL it a "cold." ;)

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Rockefeller: I guess these days FoI would allow us to see some of his emails; 100 yrs on, we do wonder what he was up to: I guess if we watch Billy Goat and his antics, we have some idea of these people

20 yrs ago, authors would have written books on their tricks; now, all standard media seems severely censored; whilst praising its freedoms ......

" "Bechamp or Pasteur" by Ethel D. Hume,"; yes, I have read that; very good; Bechamp really impressed me; Pasteur seems a trickster, a snake-oil man;

friends insisted Bechamp was all about terrain; nothing in the book seemed to confirm that; Bechamp was about careful observation; and humility

"This was after Pasteur was funded by the French govt. to basically undo science in favor of creating a "science" that brought in MONEY.."

I had not heard that; I could well believe it!! Have you got any references or pointers to this to help us readers?

"There is some controversy now about whether there actually IS SOMETHING that we'd call an "immune system,"" yes, we are perhaps just a coordinated group of organisms; a co-operative, inside our skins!!

"Isn't it exciting exploring all this new stuff? "; indeed; so much to talk about and learn; at least on SS, we seem to be able to do this; so much frantic censorship outside by those who simultaneously virtue-signal like crazy, and lecture us on how they respect human rights etc

I must go back and read about Bechamp again; I have been thought it 2 or 3 times at least; but always it spurs new thinking and perspectives; and maybe old age impairs acquisition of new knowledge! all best wishes

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𝗣𝗮𝘀𝘁𝗲𝘂𝗿 𝘃𝘀 𝗕é𝗰𝗵𝗮𝗺𝗽: 𝗧𝗵𝗲 𝗚𝗲𝗿𝗺 𝗧𝗵𝗲𝗼𝗿𝘆 𝗗𝗲𝗯𝗮𝘁𝗲

https://thevaccinereaction.org/2018/02/pasteur-vs-bechamp-the-germ-theory-debate/

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I, too, thought Bechamp was an EXCELLENT fellow... humble and the very model of a scientist... brilliant and it was his LIFE... I got the idea of the science becoming about MONEY from Hume's book, I think. Or from something I read around the same time I read her book, perhaps, I donut rememble. ;)

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There may be BENEFICIAL bacteria, too, I left that out...

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oh yes to beneficial bacteria; the Baileys point this out at length; folks "carrying" what are called toxic bacteria; perhaps our own guts are the best example, that every second we forget about: we are full of "shit": we are full of so many bacteria; happily contained within us; what fantastic systems our guts have; to seemingly keep them inside the gut lumen; or perhaps they continually move across; and are vaporised instantly by roving T cells and dendritic? cells .......

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That makes sense! Yes, I knew that, how weird I said it like that... there MAY be, lol. I'm distracted, so thanks! But of course.

I DO wish we could sit down with coffees or such and just CHAT... I am so curious as to all things like this. I would like to STUDY it formally, but I wouldn't want to study anywhere that is still into allopathic medicine... And anyway, I can't afford that... I'd like to be a Naturopathic Doctor, but I will settle for EMT... That's my plan. We'll see how things shake out in the next while. I think we're in for Quite A Ride...

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Jamie thank you for everything you do.

I am with you on how contagion and virus theory is a lie. I care for my 18 month old grandson four days a week, have been caring for him for a year. When he gets a cold or a flu my daughter and her husband always get sick and suggest they are all contagious. I think a large component of that is mental ie conditioning. Do you agree we can assume ourselves exposed to something and get physiological symptoms?

I tell them I don’t believe in contagion and I haven’t gotten sick yet. Haven’t been sick in years and years.

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Thank you Cynthia. I think psychological state is a large driver for disease.. you can be exposed to chemical toxins in your environment which will certainly make you sick yes.

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After reading all this it makes sense to kill of our elderly who are history walking

They need to eliminate them so they can hide ,,'their crimes'

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