Another thing I would like to suggest to everyone who is complaining about the government sending them free PCR tests. Take them and use them to do your own control studies. I’m currently doing 2, I’m using, you guessed it, Liposomal Vit C and my dogs saliva. The only way we can fight them and win is by using their own bogus science tests. Sarc.
Correct, any and all tests that are free, take them and use them. You can even get them at the cheap dollar stores. Well they aren’t a dollar now, but pretty cheap.
Its an odd thing to want to qualify the deception. What happens if you give your dog cancer cuz you wanted to see if the dog tests positive on a bogus test used to justify/excuse injecting people with Garbage.
Just disobey and don’t do as Told.
Carey Mullins already said PCR depends on the number of amplification cycles. Going above 20 and the tests show any and everything growing in them. It has to show in the first several amplification cycles to be relevant.
Given the published wastewater results showing continued circulation of SARs-CoV-2 variants, it is possible your family and dog have some in their saliva. That doesnt mean they got the illness.
I don’t believe that viruses exist much less have any of them been isolated to date. I also don’t believe in the waste water hypothesis carrying “ viruses
viruses are just a model to explain observed evidence, just like atomic physics and anything else too small to see. whatever they were measuring, it is associated with some people ending up sick with similar symptoms.
Except there has never been a model proven to exist. Atomic physics is also another rabbit hole I won’t get into here. But suffice it to say, you cannot quantify something that doesn’t exist.
Quite so. Jesus and the various gods falls into the same category.
I prefer to follow the evidence. That means decreasing trust further away (in number of steps) but increasing trust when people prove reliable and truthful.
When you started talking about the You Tube videos I was like YES !! Finally someone is talking about how dark and evil it all is. What an amazing podcast you both did today. I agree with everything you both said.
Thanks Pamela. Yes Robin is a real force, kind but strong. I feel we make a good team that can raise awareness about these evil people preying on the "anti-vax" and even "no virus" message to sell people alternative poisons.
Mind officially blown! I knew PCR tests were bogus and I'd been warned by my energy healer that taking Ivermectin for anything other than lung issues (and only short term) was detrimental. But I had not heard that Ivermectin is poison. I have friends that take it everyday and that concerns me greatly.
Yes Dr Mike Yeadon calls Ivermectin one of the most damaging fertility and reproductive poisons he has ever seen. It is scary how many people take it, believing it will make them better.
Had to stop here at 26 minutes after you stated for the 2nd time that you don’t care is viruses exist but yet this is the root argument. You say, it is irrelevant somehow, because it is more important to disprove PCR. The exact opposite is logical.
There is no reason to disprove PCR if virus isolation is fraud. Garbage in garbage out.
I enjoyed your recap of the Lanka challenge but don’t understand your logic.
Given the unanimous published contagion studies ALL fail PROVING contagion of biological pathogens is a myth, it renders the existence question moot. IF viruses exist they are very much harmless…
They CLAIM PCR/Genetics VERIFIES their isolation. That is to the keen observer false given our experiments… HOWEVER… in legal terms we HAVE to falsify PCR in and of itself to truly make the case beyond reasonable doubt.
I want to hear her response to his excellent observations. She clearly agrees, as I do, so he should let her respond. It's amazing that this virus-based medical field is largely fraudulent.
These experiments on proving there is no virus (whichever pathogenic virus being claimed) have been done a while ago. Dr. Stefan Lanka demonstrated there is no pathogenic virus in 2020. One writer who has been sharing this same information is Mike Stone and viroLIEgy.
Hi Mindy, Yes the experiments we are conducting are taking the control experiments of Dr. Lanka and building upon them. We have already got good results with Microscopy and are doing Genetics controls as we speak. Yes I know Mike and he is part of the project.... here is his writeup of the results we have obtained so far https://open.substack.com/pub/mikestone/p/virology-under-control?r=27c5yh&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web
I would suggest contacting the Baileys of New Zeeland and do an interview. Dr. Mark and Dr. Samantha Bailey have exposed so many false suppositions about allopathic medicine, false germ theory, the non-existence of viruses. I do not understand why you have not done this already, Jack. Ps. thank you for all the truth you tell!
Jack, unfortunately at present I don't think that will happen (attached vid link). I don't know the ins & outs of what is going on, but I believe it might have been over the promotion of vit D by Sam.
It's a pity tbh as I was looking forward to Sam reviewing Jamies' experiment which I don't think she will. I do hope they can put their differences to one side.
Yes, it was never my call as I kept my opinions to myself before, but a group of people that I know had some sincere questions of the Baileys as to why they STILL promote Vit D (Rat Poison), numerous dangerous hair growth chemicals and were up until 2019 encouraging people to get the HPV Vaccine on their social media platforms. This was for some reason a very big problem, seemingly having the audacity to ask why...
Their latest stunt, trying to smear me and my project is a ruse and a storm in a teacup for the crime of knowing people that asked legitimate questions of them and "liking"a post of someone who was also blocked by the Baileys on Social Media (despite me NEVER interacting with the Bailey's or the "liked"post before).
All a bit of a shame, but I could do no more than what I did, which was to offer them a sincere look into the lab work of "virologists"also as a unifying project.... this was very much spat back in my face...
I was happy to forgo their pushing of these dangerous drugs on their platforms before, but given their latest attitude toward me, I feel at ease to say I am happy they are not involved with what we are doing here.
From what I recall as its at least a year ago re vit D tablets; dpl called out Sam at the time. From what I understood she promoted it whilst practicing as an allopathic MD and has since then recanted her stance.
I know someone then asked Mark if he was on Antarctica (Why as there is pelnty of sun there) and had no other means of vit D, would he take the it in tablet form? To which he replied "Yes". He should have answered "Why would I need tablets when there is ample sunshine here?
She has now debunked the HPV vaxx as more bs.
IDK if you've watched said vid? Sam mentions your name which surprised me tbh. The vid is more about Dirk (dpl) and his criticisms of her. I didn't think you were as harsh in criticism at the time; a tad annoyed maybe, unlike dpl and others (names escape me at present as I haven't been on twatter for since last Oct).
I've just re-watched the vid in question and I don't think she is smearing your project as such. She says that Mark has pointed out the flaws in virology "gold standard"experiments in his substack article "Virology's event Horizon" 4 Apr 24. She mentions that by calling your experiments "controls", this is a logical fallacy and plays back into the virologists hands.
I didn't realise you might have contacted to collaborate.
It's a pity it has gotten to this stage as I was looking forward to Sams vid on your work. It would have been great if she had at least commented on your work +ve & -ve, putting aside any personal feelings.
I don't really want to get into it too much because they are not really worth my time. so this is all I will say.
Mark and Sam are STILL pushing eating vit d.... it has nothing to do with "sunshine" whether on Antarctica or anywhere.
Yes it was DPL and a few others who simply asked them a question why they still promoted it.
She smears me and my project by literally putting a picture of me and my projects name on a picture of a piece of shit and calling it "Nefarious" as in of criminal intent.. which is a serious and erroneous accusation (which they never recanted).
Mark's paper "Virology's Event Horizon" is not fit to be used as toilet paper, it flys in the face of high school level science, common sense and logic.... I would be highly embarrassed if I wrote anything like that. He claims no "control" was ever done as we can't remove something that doesn't exist. Yet it is the burden of proof to show that the virus WASN'T removed from our negative control.... by claiming it is a "Logical Fallacy" is egregious hypocrisy.
He obviously hasn't the first clue about experimental science as he is too busy writing sophistry and making meme videos on Youtube.
All in all not really bothered by their antics... it is a bit of an annoyance because alot of people gave me shit based purely on their erroneous accusations... but I don't need them for this project to succeed because the truth always outs..
As I say I don't know all the in and outs of what has happened between the Baileys and yourself. I'd rather support what both of you are doing with regards exposing this pseudoscience.
I don't condone the shit meme with photos at the end of her video as that was childish. It's like something that Dr Dan Baldwin debunk or any of the other condescending low IQers would stoop too. I think that we've all been there out of frustration and will regret later what we did. Hindsight being a wonderful thing.
I haven't read Marks essay as above yet. it doesn't sound like the science that he is trying to expose. Controls have been done in distant virology but as you know they now call them "mocks". You and I did "mock" exams and now they change this definition too.
Obviously I can't speak on her behalf but I assume due to ill feelings she has read "control experiment" without the full knowledge of what yourself et al are trying to do. As such, she has simply dismissed it out of hand. I think this is both childish & stubborn as she would have been a great voice for the work. Maybe she'll come around one day, who knows.
I am a supporter of your work as virology, the pseudoscience has to be exposed once and for all. It affects not only mankind, but the poor animals that are tortured by these people in justifying & continuing this falsehood.
Good luck on negating the go to for virologists: sequencing.
No there are and never have been controlled trials or isolation in virology, ever as they are all circular arguments. Viruses exist on the sharp tip of a Unicorns horn.
Man, where to start with this crap. First a farewell to virology is accurate and scientific and you know it! The argument about vitamin d pales by comparison to the truths that they have given out freely, scientifically by said method. You must know this! There is no such creature as a virus as is plainly pointed out in the writing as well as the videos. This site will never interview the Baileys because they would be debunked at every turn. The entire health freedom cabal will not admit to the fraud of virology because they are all tied to it financially. If you listen to Sam interviewing Dell Big Tree about virology it is easy to see what they are protecting and what they are critical of. Kennedy as well! His ass kissing of Israel and their genocide is embarrassing and shameful. He is now endorsing Trump as if both parties have not sold us out. There is no choice except a true independent and this will never happen. I am not reading any more posts from this site.
The highest recommended dose of Vit D3 is ~100 micrograms (4,000 i.u.)
The LD50 in mice & rats is ~ 800 micrograms for a 20 gm animal
In a 70 kgm human, the equivalent of a 800 microgram dose is 2,800,000 micrograms (2,800 mg)
So the estimated toxic dose range is about 3,500 fold higher than the highest recommended dose, which is a very large margin of safety.
In comparison, for ethanol beverages, each drink adds about 0.01 to 0.05 to the BAC (Blood Alcohol Content % w/v) -
0.35-0.45 BAC = coma
> 0.45 BAC = death
Thus, a person enjoying a bout of dipsomania is most likely to pass out before imbibing the final drink which would be the fatal one: "one drink away from death".
And yet, such a fragile margin of safety is tolerated in most societies.
It is actually not a poison as much as an anticoagulant dosed by body weight. Like all blood thinners if you take enough, you will bleed through your circulatory system and die. Poison, yes, they are just not in the general sense, like arsenic. but still why would they be added to the jabs?
1) I don't think anyone sells booze as a health miracle. Lab synthetics made from industrial waste byproducts ("Vitamin" {{insert any letter here}}) are not marketed and sold as such...At least street drugs are more honest about what they are.
2) What happens when people take 'small' doses of the same poison every day for 5+ years? And if they are taking 4 other small dose poisons with a vitamin label, how well do they get together and perform group poisoning?
3) Words matter. Since nobody has actually found a so-called vitamin in nature, we probably shouldn't be using that word on the packages for chemical drug interventions (supplements/fortification). If people think these interventions will "work", so be it, at least they wont be under the false impression it had anything to do with the provisions of Mother Nature.
Another thing I would like to suggest to everyone who is complaining about the government sending them free PCR tests. Take them and use them to do your own control studies. I’m currently doing 2, I’m using, you guessed it, Liposomal Vit C and my dogs saliva. The only way we can fight them and win is by using their own bogus science tests. Sarc.
Correct, any and all tests that are free, take them and use them. You can even get them at the cheap dollar stores. Well they aren’t a dollar now, but pretty cheap.
Could you have meant to say “antigen” tests? PCR can’t be done at home.
Its an odd thing to want to qualify the deception. What happens if you give your dog cancer cuz you wanted to see if the dog tests positive on a bogus test used to justify/excuse injecting people with Garbage.
Just disobey and don’t do as Told.
Carey Mullins already said PCR depends on the number of amplification cycles. Going above 20 and the tests show any and everything growing in them. It has to show in the first several amplification cycles to be relevant.
wot?
If not understood, ignore. Cheers.
Mullis was a Pharma virus pushing shill. https://open.substack.com/pub/longtimedissident/p/the-mullis-mirage?r=oa0v9&utm_medium=ios
Given the published wastewater results showing continued circulation of SARs-CoV-2 variants, it is possible your family and dog have some in their saliva. That doesnt mean they got the illness.
I don’t believe that viruses exist much less have any of them been isolated to date. I also don’t believe in the waste water hypothesis carrying “ viruses
viruses are just a model to explain observed evidence, just like atomic physics and anything else too small to see. whatever they were measuring, it is associated with some people ending up sick with similar symptoms.
Except there has never been a model proven to exist. Atomic physics is also another rabbit hole I won’t get into here. But suffice it to say, you cannot quantify something that doesn’t exist.
Quite so. Jesus and the various gods falls into the same category.
I prefer to follow the evidence. That means decreasing trust further away (in number of steps) but increasing trust when people prove reliable and truthful.
When you started talking about the You Tube videos I was like YES !! Finally someone is talking about how dark and evil it all is. What an amazing podcast you both did today. I agree with everything you both said.
Thanks Pamela. Yes Robin is a real force, kind but strong. I feel we make a good team that can raise awareness about these evil people preying on the "anti-vax" and even "no virus" message to sell people alternative poisons.
Mind officially blown! I knew PCR tests were bogus and I'd been warned by my energy healer that taking Ivermectin for anything other than lung issues (and only short term) was detrimental. But I had not heard that Ivermectin is poison. I have friends that take it everyday and that concerns me greatly.
Yes Dr Mike Yeadon calls Ivermectin one of the most damaging fertility and reproductive poisons he has ever seen. It is scary how many people take it, believing it will make them better.
Had to stop here at 26 minutes after you stated for the 2nd time that you don’t care is viruses exist but yet this is the root argument. You say, it is irrelevant somehow, because it is more important to disprove PCR. The exact opposite is logical.
There is no reason to disprove PCR if virus isolation is fraud. Garbage in garbage out.
I enjoyed your recap of the Lanka challenge but don’t understand your logic.
Regards
There are 2 arguments going on.
Given the unanimous published contagion studies ALL fail PROVING contagion of biological pathogens is a myth, it renders the existence question moot. IF viruses exist they are very much harmless…
They CLAIM PCR/Genetics VERIFIES their isolation. That is to the keen observer false given our experiments… HOWEVER… in legal terms we HAVE to falsify PCR in and of itself to truly make the case beyond reasonable doubt.
Ok I get it. I kept listening and see where it’s going,
Thanks
Inspiring! Thank you!
I am in complete alignment with your commitment to health and well being!
I have my off grid camp, an abundance of water, food and energy!
We have farms, seed banks, bartering and we work collaboratively!
Truth, Love Justice and Freedom!
Nice one Jamie. Keep up the good work
Hahah PCR is used to detect a fart from Giant :)))))))
I like simple explanations.
Nice job guys.
Thank you!
I want to hear her response to his excellent observations. She clearly agrees, as I do, so he should let her respond. It's amazing that this virus-based medical field is largely fraudulent.
How far do you think Ken Paxton will go with his law suit against Pfizer ?
Don't know much about that.
Let's pray he takes it all the way . Dr Michael Yaeadon has told us what these shots were used for!
Another superb Interview Jamie!
thank you.....indeed tge eye opener this world needs
These experiments on proving there is no virus (whichever pathogenic virus being claimed) have been done a while ago. Dr. Stefan Lanka demonstrated there is no pathogenic virus in 2020. One writer who has been sharing this same information is Mike Stone and viroLIEgy.
Hi Mindy, Yes the experiments we are conducting are taking the control experiments of Dr. Lanka and building upon them. We have already got good results with Microscopy and are doing Genetics controls as we speak. Yes I know Mike and he is part of the project.... here is his writeup of the results we have obtained so far https://open.substack.com/pub/mikestone/p/virology-under-control?r=27c5yh&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web
Oh...I didn't know you were part of the project! THANK YOU FOR YOUR GOOD WORK!
Thank you for your kind words of support.
Mark and Samanta Bailey of New Zeeland. You need to contact them and do interviews please, Jack.
I would suggest contacting the Baileys of New Zeeland and do an interview. Dr. Mark and Dr. Samantha Bailey have exposed so many false suppositions about allopathic medicine, false germ theory, the non-existence of viruses. I do not understand why you have not done this already, Jack. Ps. thank you for all the truth you tell!
Jack, unfortunately at present I don't think that will happen (attached vid link). I don't know the ins & outs of what is going on, but I believe it might have been over the promotion of vit D by Sam.
It's a pity tbh as I was looking forward to Sam reviewing Jamies' experiment which I don't think she will. I do hope they can put their differences to one side.
https://odysee.com/@drsambailey:c/Narcissists-Who-Hate-The-Baileys:0
Yes, it was never my call as I kept my opinions to myself before, but a group of people that I know had some sincere questions of the Baileys as to why they STILL promote Vit D (Rat Poison), numerous dangerous hair growth chemicals and were up until 2019 encouraging people to get the HPV Vaccine on their social media platforms. This was for some reason a very big problem, seemingly having the audacity to ask why...
Their latest stunt, trying to smear me and my project is a ruse and a storm in a teacup for the crime of knowing people that asked legitimate questions of them and "liking"a post of someone who was also blocked by the Baileys on Social Media (despite me NEVER interacting with the Bailey's or the "liked"post before).
All a bit of a shame, but I could do no more than what I did, which was to offer them a sincere look into the lab work of "virologists"also as a unifying project.... this was very much spat back in my face...
I was happy to forgo their pushing of these dangerous drugs on their platforms before, but given their latest attitude toward me, I feel at ease to say I am happy they are not involved with what we are doing here.
From what I recall as its at least a year ago re vit D tablets; dpl called out Sam at the time. From what I understood she promoted it whilst practicing as an allopathic MD and has since then recanted her stance.
I know someone then asked Mark if he was on Antarctica (Why as there is pelnty of sun there) and had no other means of vit D, would he take the it in tablet form? To which he replied "Yes". He should have answered "Why would I need tablets when there is ample sunshine here?
She has now debunked the HPV vaxx as more bs.
IDK if you've watched said vid? Sam mentions your name which surprised me tbh. The vid is more about Dirk (dpl) and his criticisms of her. I didn't think you were as harsh in criticism at the time; a tad annoyed maybe, unlike dpl and others (names escape me at present as I haven't been on twatter for since last Oct).
I've just re-watched the vid in question and I don't think she is smearing your project as such. She says that Mark has pointed out the flaws in virology "gold standard"experiments in his substack article "Virology's event Horizon" 4 Apr 24. She mentions that by calling your experiments "controls", this is a logical fallacy and plays back into the virologists hands.
I didn't realise you might have contacted to collaborate.
It's a pity it has gotten to this stage as I was looking forward to Sams vid on your work. It would have been great if she had at least commented on your work +ve & -ve, putting aside any personal feelings.
I don't really want to get into it too much because they are not really worth my time. so this is all I will say.
Mark and Sam are STILL pushing eating vit d.... it has nothing to do with "sunshine" whether on Antarctica or anywhere.
Yes it was DPL and a few others who simply asked them a question why they still promoted it.
She smears me and my project by literally putting a picture of me and my projects name on a picture of a piece of shit and calling it "Nefarious" as in of criminal intent.. which is a serious and erroneous accusation (which they never recanted).
Mark's paper "Virology's Event Horizon" is not fit to be used as toilet paper, it flys in the face of high school level science, common sense and logic.... I would be highly embarrassed if I wrote anything like that. He claims no "control" was ever done as we can't remove something that doesn't exist. Yet it is the burden of proof to show that the virus WASN'T removed from our negative control.... by claiming it is a "Logical Fallacy" is egregious hypocrisy.
He obviously hasn't the first clue about experimental science as he is too busy writing sophistry and making meme videos on Youtube.
All in all not really bothered by their antics... it is a bit of an annoyance because alot of people gave me shit based purely on their erroneous accusations... but I don't need them for this project to succeed because the truth always outs..
Alright Jamie,
Thanks for the reply.
As I say I don't know all the in and outs of what has happened between the Baileys and yourself. I'd rather support what both of you are doing with regards exposing this pseudoscience.
I don't condone the shit meme with photos at the end of her video as that was childish. It's like something that Dr Dan Baldwin debunk or any of the other condescending low IQers would stoop too. I think that we've all been there out of frustration and will regret later what we did. Hindsight being a wonderful thing.
I haven't read Marks essay as above yet. it doesn't sound like the science that he is trying to expose. Controls have been done in distant virology but as you know they now call them "mocks". You and I did "mock" exams and now they change this definition too.
Obviously I can't speak on her behalf but I assume due to ill feelings she has read "control experiment" without the full knowledge of what yourself et al are trying to do. As such, she has simply dismissed it out of hand. I think this is both childish & stubborn as she would have been a great voice for the work. Maybe she'll come around one day, who knows.
I am a supporter of your work as virology, the pseudoscience has to be exposed once and for all. It affects not only mankind, but the poor animals that are tortured by these people in justifying & continuing this falsehood.
Good luck on negating the go to for virologists: sequencing.
Thank you for your kind and measured appraisal.
Yes onto getting the work done, we are due to see the results of the first round of Genetic Controls back within the next few weeks. Stay tuned.
Cheers J
No there are and never have been controlled trials or isolation in virology, ever as they are all circular arguments. Viruses exist on the sharp tip of a Unicorns horn.
Man, where to start with this crap. First a farewell to virology is accurate and scientific and you know it! The argument about vitamin d pales by comparison to the truths that they have given out freely, scientifically by said method. You must know this! There is no such creature as a virus as is plainly pointed out in the writing as well as the videos. This site will never interview the Baileys because they would be debunked at every turn. The entire health freedom cabal will not admit to the fraud of virology because they are all tied to it financially. If you listen to Sam interviewing Dell Big Tree about virology it is easy to see what they are protecting and what they are critical of. Kennedy as well! His ass kissing of Israel and their genocide is embarrassing and shameful. He is now endorsing Trump as if both parties have not sold us out. There is no choice except a true independent and this will never happen. I am not reading any more posts from this site.
Cool.... off you pop.
Great interview Jamie, but please never call yourself "anti vaxxer" again as you this shuts down many still unaware people from listening to you.
We would all be 'pro vax' if it were vaccines with not to many side effects and we are all 'anti only harmful injections'.
yeah but most vaccines were never needed and do have harmful effects and were never tested against placebos
No 'vaccine' ever prevented any illness (disease). They are ALL only harmful as no disease could ever be proven to be transmissible.
https://telegra.ph/Disease-transmission-experiments-all-failed-list-09-09
Margin of safety comparison:
Vit D3 supplements versus Booze
The highest recommended dose of Vit D3 is ~100 micrograms (4,000 i.u.)
The LD50 in mice & rats is ~ 800 micrograms for a 20 gm animal
In a 70 kgm human, the equivalent of a 800 microgram dose is 2,800,000 micrograms (2,800 mg)
So the estimated toxic dose range is about 3,500 fold higher than the highest recommended dose, which is a very large margin of safety.
In comparison, for ethanol beverages, each drink adds about 0.01 to 0.05 to the BAC (Blood Alcohol Content % w/v) -
0.35-0.45 BAC = coma
> 0.45 BAC = death
Thus, a person enjoying a bout of dipsomania is most likely to pass out before imbibing the final drink which would be the fatal one: "one drink away from death".
And yet, such a fragile margin of safety is tolerated in most societies.
Your calculations are based off of the people who sell rat poison as vit d pills…
under no circumstances should anyone ever eat rat poison.Cheers
If you're worried about dwindling supplies, then don't give it to the rats.
You can give to the rats coumadin instead.
:)
Seriously... people who recommend eating rat poison will be banned on my substack.
It is actually not a poison as much as an anticoagulant dosed by body weight. Like all blood thinners if you take enough, you will bleed through your circulatory system and die. Poison, yes, they are just not in the general sense, like arsenic. but still why would they be added to the jabs?
Context framework needed here:
1) I don't think anyone sells booze as a health miracle. Lab synthetics made from industrial waste byproducts ("Vitamin" {{insert any letter here}}) are not marketed and sold as such...At least street drugs are more honest about what they are.
2) What happens when people take 'small' doses of the same poison every day for 5+ years? And if they are taking 4 other small dose poisons with a vitamin label, how well do they get together and perform group poisoning?
3) Words matter. Since nobody has actually found a so-called vitamin in nature, we probably shouldn't be using that word on the packages for chemical drug interventions (supplements/fortification). If people think these interventions will "work", so be it, at least they wont be under the false impression it had anything to do with the provisions of Mother Nature.
Agree with all of the points you make