Jamie… you may not have wished to write this article but I just paid so that I could comment. I will try to make this concise but a lot has happened in the last 5 years with No Virus INC as you are very well aware.
As you said, many of us became enamored with No Virus INC and their perceived defending of truth. I’m guilty as charged! Became friends with all them on Facebook (if they had an account) and became active on their pages and listening/watching their info on YouTube or other places. Never thought for a second any of them would be deceivers.
So, fast forward to 2023-2024ish because my sense of time is all fucked up these days… anyway, I received an email from Alec (ie The Way Forward) promoting “discharging debt”, “discharging court charges”, and “not having to pay credit cards”. This was all based on taking charge of the all capital LEGAL NAME. Well, if there is one thing I really know, it’s Law, and although this was a pseudo-legal theory he was pushing, I am very knowledgeable on the topic. As such, I called him out and asked him some simple questions that obviously exposed his lack of knowledge or intent to defraud by way of lies, either way, he wasn’t happy. To sum this up, I asked simple questions and he couldn’t or wouldn’t answer because it would expose the lie and then I asked if he couldn’t answer my questions if he could provide proof. You know, because Alec was so adamant for years on proof of claim of virology but, alas, to date, he has provided no proof and has blocked me everywhere.
The reason I bring this up, other than No Virus INC being No Virus INC, is because after this interaction with Alec, he had you on his show and that was my first exposure to you. I think I had heard about you but I had never seen you or heard you speak. So at this point, Alec is suspect and he has you on and the guilty by association came to mind. Maybe Jamie isn’t being truthful??? After that I just let it go with my thoughts on you and have followed your obviously truthful work since then. Yet Alec continues to deceive.
Then you had it out with Mike and I was still thinking Mike was a “good guy” so i honestly thought you were being way too emotional, which usually means you are the one at fault. But your work is true so I figured that maybe you just weren’t a nice guy, which is fine. I’m not so nice to people often these days. But, you can’t shoot the messenger and your work is truthful so who cares what his attitude is like. Truth is the only thing that matters and you have been committed to it.
I’m almost done, I think… a few months ago, I exposed Andy and Tom (and Alec a bit further back) on Facebook and the lies they are promoting. As you can imagine it got a lot of attention from people who know of Andy and Tom. Mike Stone being one of those people.
I called out Tom for selling $120 Liposomal Vitamin C, of which, both Tom AND Mike admit “probably doesn’t exist in the body” and there is no proof it exists anywhere but in lab chemicals, but Tom says it “seems to help” so it’s ok for him to sell it based on that premise!
This is where the madness starts and I empathize with you on dealing with Mike for so long. I have screen shots where he uses logical fallacy after logical fallacy and then tells me I made a logical fallacy and demands I show proof that vitamin c causes harm (another logical fallacy by him, reverse burden of proof)… he does this repeatedly, making me froth at the mouth and want to rip his head off, then tells me I cannot have a civil discussion and blocks me everywhere… it’s his fucking MO! And his followers defend him like I was out for blood! (I was at one point, lol) Seriously though, he is one fucked up guy to put on such a front and then act like that. He’s exactly how you described above! I have first-hand knowledge if you need it.
In conclusion (lol), I appreciate this article and I believe it needed to be written. I apologize for my original error in judgment on who you are. I thank you for all your invaluable work. Truth matters!
Hi Adam, thank you for your support mate, can often feel a bit lonely out here, when you call " the cult" out they have seemingly whipped up a bunch of very stupid very dedicated apostles to do alot of their dirty work of gaslighting their victims into believing they are alone.
Yes I think it is important people know who these evil con artists truly are. Ironically it is a bit like "No Virus" that when you see what these people are like first hand and experience it, it is very hard to unsee it.
You seem to be doing a fantastic job caling out thr hypocrisy of these characters as well as the nefarious gaslighting tactics of people like Sergeant Stone.
I would urge you to write your own story on Substack too. Just like Dpl used to do, Just like Kristen is doing, just like Medicine Girl, Just like Proton Magic and Research Integrity there are lots of accounts exposing these people and the more information and experiences people see the better.
My personal problem is that I am so busy with my project and ultimately as you have probably experienced wankers like Sergeant Stone want to wrap you up and waste your time with lies and if you don't react he will just block. It is a full time job exposing these people and just not enough hours in the day for me to do it.
I am in support of you and understand your frustration at these hypocrites that we all "fell for" in the beginning.
Proton suggested i write something up also. I do plan on it and will share the link when i post it. Thanks for sharing your story. i appreciate all you do!
Jamie is absolutely right, the more accountings of this behavior the better. A bunch of people do not just go from supporting them to trashing them for no reason. This has all been WELL-EARNED due to their abominable fucking behavior and relentless attacks on people.
The people who follow Mike Stone and Baileys are either evil or mentally retarded. Thanks for the detailed description of the events and the evidence provided.
Jamie, I am SO GLAD that you finally decided to write this all out. I will add some things for any of your readers who may want further clarification:
For the record, it was I who was stupid enough to invite Mike Stone into our private telegram group. It was here that he decided to show his true colors after myself and others would not sit back and allow the Bailey's to go unchallenged. In true hypocritical fashion, it is ok for the upper echelon of Team No Virus to call out all manner of lying grifter, alt-poison pusher, and medical/political personality you can imagine... but if you hold them to the same standard... well, we have clearly seen what ensues haven't we??
People who read this must ask themselves: how did this group of people go from battling trolls in the trenches together, podcasting together, supporting one another's work, etc. etc. to what this has all unraveled into? For anyone interested in the truth, the answer is simple: these people ended up being the epitome of everything they publicly claimed to stand against.
In order to keep up the staus quo, they gaslight, manipulate, dox, harass, and harangue any and every one that has a word to say against them. They all pretend to be against pharma yet shill harder for them than some allopaths!! They cry logical fallacy, but I can play logical fallacy fucking bingo just watching the interactions of some of these folks.
Many of them have made it tremendously difficult for those trying to disseminate virology to be taken seriously. It is not helpful when all that you see linked to presentations like The End of Covid are a bunch of controlled opposition puppets, many of whom these people have openly spoken against. They do not have a shred of integrity within their bones. They attach the no virus conversation to flat earth, piss drinking, alt-poisons, testing, and more. This is my biggest and most glaring issue with them.
I wrote off all of the Baileys' Bunch when Sam attacked Me in a video. Not directly - that was aimed at Poisoned Kiwi - but had My icon with a number of Others on a pile of feces with flies for having dared to write a positive reply to one of His posts. She called it, Narcissists Who Hate the Baileys. I did an article in response:
yes, their video about narcissists who hate them was particularly hilarious considering the amount of self-aggrandizing narcissism that came along with it.
These people are bonafide, grade A hypocrites and scammers.
That is surely where I would place My probabilities. LOL! And They did not address the issue. They made it seem as if Craig was claiming Mark’s work was His. But that is not what He claimed. There was work in the book referencing a John Bevan-Smith (JBS) as the author of something They were showing.
Craig was saying that that citation belongs to Him.
So right there, We can see it as something to muddy any waters, and crank People’s emotions. They are right scum, They are.
Hey Roy. Funnily enough I actually have had some alright conversations with SenseStrand at least he DOES discuss the science even if he is deluded he still lies less than Stone.
Onwards and Upwards, have some BIG BIG news coming out next week which is a "fresh start" away from this last set of experiments which they somewhat ruined.
I don't know how I missed this fantastic and enthralling post when it was first published but I have my suspicions that SS interferes with the circulation of certain newsletters. I know it has mine shadow-banned for sure. I don't even receive a copy of my own posts or ever see them listed in notifications!
Hi Substack monitors!
Yes, many of my readers have informed me that they are not receiving notifications from me either by email or by SS notifications, but they choose to visit my newsletter regularly to bypass your censorship.
Let me take this opportunity to thank you, Jamie, for taking the trouble of writing this fascinating and horrifying newsletter. I feel better informed about No Virus Inc than I have been for months.
I knew a little, but you have filled in all the details and every single paragraph had me gasping or swearing as if I was reading the script of a Hammer House of Horror film.
You said:
"....they will pay with their conscience and guilt." and I feel obliged to correct you on that self-deception. Let me assure you with absolute certainty that the 'team' are incapable of conscience or guilt. They are PAID to do what they do..... 2nd swimming pools all around I guess!
I was thrown off Twitter on Christmas Eve of 2020 because I had published an email exchange between myself and UK MHRA which showed categorically that the authorities did not have sufficient information to give any vaccine recipient 'informed consent'. Furthermore, the Pfizer vaccine that they had approved was derived from a computer generated recombined genetic mush extracted by rtPCR process.
I went on to state that Covid19 was caused by the roll out of 5G and I provided evidence to support, gathered by a Spanish doctor in April of 2020.
I was publishing my research work on Hive.blog at that time so I continued to share it on Facebook and Discord for a few months before both those channels deplatformed me too.
I came to Substack in January of 2021 and uploaded the most important of my work immediately, including a fat file of links and studies.
Christine Massey took my email exchange with MHRA to add to her FOIAs and I was very flattered that she included me in her database. As a direct result of that we became friends until it transpired that she had deliberately extracted the emails from my article because she did not agree with my conclusions about 5G.
From then on I found myself being bullied by her and a small 'team' of acolytes. Sadly, Bill Huston was one of the most unpleasant among them. It is awful that he found himself metaphorically beaten to death by his paper heroes.
One by one, every single person you mention began to either ignore me or dismiss me and character assassinate me despite my entirely polite efforts.
Very early on, I found myself blocked by Sam Bailey (both on Odysee and on SS) which was very odd because she never answered me directly when I commented on her work. Then I began to simply observe and quietly, without saying a word to any of them, I blocked every single one of the No Virus Inc 'team' because they were demonstrably bullying people and trying to control the opposition. They were self-appointed leaders and, like you, I don't play 'follow my leader' since I was about four years old.
One unpleasant female of little consequence told me that my 5G=C19 'theory' was insane, unsubstantiated and the reason why "everyone ignores you"!
Phew, I thought. What a relief!
After reading your story I am now eternally grateful to Facebook, Twitter and Discord for de-platforming me! (I never thought I would say that!)
The No Virus Inc 'team' were unable to glean information about me, my friends and my family because all my social media accounts had been completely removed from sight! They could not dox me. They could not blackmail my friends or my family. They could not get to me on SS because I have blocked the entire team.
Last to go was that astrologically naked slimeball Eric F Coppolino, who did his best to smear my name within weeks of subscribing to his self-aggrandising nonsense. At least he had the grace (or fear?) to return my money after he discovered that he could not dox a woman who lives on a pension and using her birth name blatantly and boldly on every single account ever held on any social media platform. He must have been livid that he could not pull the same discrediting stunt that he used against Poornima Wagh, who (incidentally) was also correlating 5G with C19.
The 'team' has outed itself. Fallen on its own sword. Thank you Jamie, I am utterly delighted that you swear as much as you do. That bunch of see-you-next-tuesdays deserve MUCH MUCH more than a few hurty words. They should be exposed and I think that your blazing light and sheer crystal grit just might be a catalyst that will totally dispense with these self-appointed leaders that nobody ever wanted or elected.
Well said Jamie. These assholes are as bad as SenseStrand and I almost hold him in higher regard. I’m sorry they doxxed your scientists. I really miss DPL. I used to talk to Bill and he told me how they - Christine Massey (the Reicki Healer, Goddess of light and love) in particular - had really hurt him. A bunch of fucking assholes with delusions of grandeur. Completely shameful.
You are SO RIGHT! I've deleted my previous comment/note from all the places I posted it! I wrote that initially to appeal to those who are new to all this information. However, I did so without regard to all the nasty sh*t that Stoney has perpetrated on others and with a dimmer on all the sh*t Stoney pulled on me. This is what happens when we capitulate!
I still think that I may have been among the very first of OUR "crew" who was exposed to Stoney's horrific psychoses, (in late 2022), so please correct me if any of you were EARLIER victims of Stoney.... (It sounds like Bill Huston may have been victimized by Stoney before me..??) However, as I recall, after meeting you and DPL by mid-2023, it DID TAKE the rest of you some TIME before you realized what I was trying to tell you about Stoney. That's another reason why I think I may have been among the first victims of Stoney's sealioning/lying/obfuscating....
It was so demoralizing and really debilitating when Stoney unleashed his psychoses on me. I had such high hopes for this new dissident movement, after the despicable, disgusting things that happened in our old "AIDS" dissident movement. I was feeling super alone until I met you and DPL. So again, you are right, Stoney is possibly the worst member of the NO VIRUS INC crew, maybe even worse than Mark Bailey who is more obviously a villain....Thank you for setting me STRAIGHT!
Jamie… you may not have wished to write this article but I just paid so that I could comment. I will try to make this concise but a lot has happened in the last 5 years with No Virus INC as you are very well aware.
As you said, many of us became enamored with No Virus INC and their perceived defending of truth. I’m guilty as charged! Became friends with all them on Facebook (if they had an account) and became active on their pages and listening/watching their info on YouTube or other places. Never thought for a second any of them would be deceivers.
So, fast forward to 2023-2024ish because my sense of time is all fucked up these days… anyway, I received an email from Alec (ie The Way Forward) promoting “discharging debt”, “discharging court charges”, and “not having to pay credit cards”. This was all based on taking charge of the all capital LEGAL NAME. Well, if there is one thing I really know, it’s Law, and although this was a pseudo-legal theory he was pushing, I am very knowledgeable on the topic. As such, I called him out and asked him some simple questions that obviously exposed his lack of knowledge or intent to defraud by way of lies, either way, he wasn’t happy. To sum this up, I asked simple questions and he couldn’t or wouldn’t answer because it would expose the lie and then I asked if he couldn’t answer my questions if he could provide proof. You know, because Alec was so adamant for years on proof of claim of virology but, alas, to date, he has provided no proof and has blocked me everywhere.
The reason I bring this up, other than No Virus INC being No Virus INC, is because after this interaction with Alec, he had you on his show and that was my first exposure to you. I think I had heard about you but I had never seen you or heard you speak. So at this point, Alec is suspect and he has you on and the guilty by association came to mind. Maybe Jamie isn’t being truthful??? After that I just let it go with my thoughts on you and have followed your obviously truthful work since then. Yet Alec continues to deceive.
Then you had it out with Mike and I was still thinking Mike was a “good guy” so i honestly thought you were being way too emotional, which usually means you are the one at fault. But your work is true so I figured that maybe you just weren’t a nice guy, which is fine. I’m not so nice to people often these days. But, you can’t shoot the messenger and your work is truthful so who cares what his attitude is like. Truth is the only thing that matters and you have been committed to it.
I’m almost done, I think… a few months ago, I exposed Andy and Tom (and Alec a bit further back) on Facebook and the lies they are promoting. As you can imagine it got a lot of attention from people who know of Andy and Tom. Mike Stone being one of those people.
I called out Tom for selling $120 Liposomal Vitamin C, of which, both Tom AND Mike admit “probably doesn’t exist in the body” and there is no proof it exists anywhere but in lab chemicals, but Tom says it “seems to help” so it’s ok for him to sell it based on that premise!
This is where the madness starts and I empathize with you on dealing with Mike for so long. I have screen shots where he uses logical fallacy after logical fallacy and then tells me I made a logical fallacy and demands I show proof that vitamin c causes harm (another logical fallacy by him, reverse burden of proof)… he does this repeatedly, making me froth at the mouth and want to rip his head off, then tells me I cannot have a civil discussion and blocks me everywhere… it’s his fucking MO! And his followers defend him like I was out for blood! (I was at one point, lol) Seriously though, he is one fucked up guy to put on such a front and then act like that. He’s exactly how you described above! I have first-hand knowledge if you need it.
In conclusion (lol), I appreciate this article and I believe it needed to be written. I apologize for my original error in judgment on who you are. I thank you for all your invaluable work. Truth matters!
Hi Adam, thank you for your support mate, can often feel a bit lonely out here, when you call " the cult" out they have seemingly whipped up a bunch of very stupid very dedicated apostles to do alot of their dirty work of gaslighting their victims into believing they are alone.
Yes I think it is important people know who these evil con artists truly are. Ironically it is a bit like "No Virus" that when you see what these people are like first hand and experience it, it is very hard to unsee it.
You seem to be doing a fantastic job caling out thr hypocrisy of these characters as well as the nefarious gaslighting tactics of people like Sergeant Stone.
I would urge you to write your own story on Substack too. Just like Dpl used to do, Just like Kristen is doing, just like Medicine Girl, Just like Proton Magic and Research Integrity there are lots of accounts exposing these people and the more information and experiences people see the better.
My personal problem is that I am so busy with my project and ultimately as you have probably experienced wankers like Sergeant Stone want to wrap you up and waste your time with lies and if you don't react he will just block. It is a full time job exposing these people and just not enough hours in the day for me to do it.
I am in support of you and understand your frustration at these hypocrites that we all "fell for" in the beginning.
Proton suggested i write something up also. I do plan on it and will share the link when i post it. Thanks for sharing your story. i appreciate all you do!
Jamie is absolutely right, the more accountings of this behavior the better. A bunch of people do not just go from supporting them to trashing them for no reason. This has all been WELL-EARNED due to their abominable fucking behavior and relentless attacks on people.
The people who follow Mike Stone and Baileys are either evil or mentally retarded. Thanks for the detailed description of the events and the evidence provided.
Agreed. How people, if they truly aren't compromised, follow and even pay these people is beyond me.
Jamie, I am SO GLAD that you finally decided to write this all out. I will add some things for any of your readers who may want further clarification:
For the record, it was I who was stupid enough to invite Mike Stone into our private telegram group. It was here that he decided to show his true colors after myself and others would not sit back and allow the Bailey's to go unchallenged. In true hypocritical fashion, it is ok for the upper echelon of Team No Virus to call out all manner of lying grifter, alt-poison pusher, and medical/political personality you can imagine... but if you hold them to the same standard... well, we have clearly seen what ensues haven't we??
People who read this must ask themselves: how did this group of people go from battling trolls in the trenches together, podcasting together, supporting one another's work, etc. etc. to what this has all unraveled into? For anyone interested in the truth, the answer is simple: these people ended up being the epitome of everything they publicly claimed to stand against.
In order to keep up the staus quo, they gaslight, manipulate, dox, harass, and harangue any and every one that has a word to say against them. They all pretend to be against pharma yet shill harder for them than some allopaths!! They cry logical fallacy, but I can play logical fallacy fucking bingo just watching the interactions of some of these folks.
Many of them have made it tremendously difficult for those trying to disseminate virology to be taken seriously. It is not helpful when all that you see linked to presentations like The End of Covid are a bunch of controlled opposition puppets, many of whom these people have openly spoken against. They do not have a shred of integrity within their bones. They attach the no virus conversation to flat earth, piss drinking, alt-poisons, testing, and more. This is my biggest and most glaring issue with them.
This comment I put on Kristin Welch's SS today is applicable here too
https://moonmaiden.substack.com/p/the-limited-hangout-of-no-virus-inc/comment/139964419
I wrote off all of the Baileys' Bunch when Sam attacked Me in a video. Not directly - that was aimed at Poisoned Kiwi - but had My icon with a number of Others on a pile of feces with flies for having dared to write a positive reply to one of His posts. She called it, Narcissists Who Hate the Baileys. I did an article in response:
Narcissists Who Think People Hate Them (article): https://amaterasusolar.substack.com/p/narcissists-who-think-people-hate
yes, their video about narcissists who hate them was particularly hilarious considering the amount of self-aggrandizing narcissism that came along with it.
These people are bonafide, grade A hypocrites and scammers.
That is surely where I would place My probabilities. LOL! And They did not address the issue. They made it seem as if Craig was claiming Mark’s work was His. But that is not what He claimed. There was work in the book referencing a John Bevan-Smith (JBS) as the author of something They were showing.
Craig was saying that that citation belongs to Him.
So right there, We can see it as something to muddy any waters, and crank People’s emotions. They are right scum, They are.
Scum indeed
Hey Roy. Funnily enough I actually have had some alright conversations with SenseStrand at least he DOES discuss the science even if he is deluded he still lies less than Stone.
Onwards and Upwards, have some BIG BIG news coming out next week which is a "fresh start" away from this last set of experiments which they somewhat ruined.
'Mutton crew trolling live in the basement,
shots heard sounds like their bullets are wasted,
grace did its best this angel has tasted
freedom and it's not your shit information'
Thumbnail Green. On a Watch List
https://open.substack.com/pub/thumbnailgreen/p/watch-list-video?r=nv8me&utm_medium=ios
That is so brilliant! xx
I don't know how I missed this fantastic and enthralling post when it was first published but I have my suspicions that SS interferes with the circulation of certain newsletters. I know it has mine shadow-banned for sure. I don't even receive a copy of my own posts or ever see them listed in notifications!
Hi Substack monitors!
Yes, many of my readers have informed me that they are not receiving notifications from me either by email or by SS notifications, but they choose to visit my newsletter regularly to bypass your censorship.
Let me take this opportunity to thank you, Jamie, for taking the trouble of writing this fascinating and horrifying newsletter. I feel better informed about No Virus Inc than I have been for months.
I knew a little, but you have filled in all the details and every single paragraph had me gasping or swearing as if I was reading the script of a Hammer House of Horror film.
You said:
"....they will pay with their conscience and guilt." and I feel obliged to correct you on that self-deception. Let me assure you with absolute certainty that the 'team' are incapable of conscience or guilt. They are PAID to do what they do..... 2nd swimming pools all around I guess!
I was thrown off Twitter on Christmas Eve of 2020 because I had published an email exchange between myself and UK MHRA which showed categorically that the authorities did not have sufficient information to give any vaccine recipient 'informed consent'. Furthermore, the Pfizer vaccine that they had approved was derived from a computer generated recombined genetic mush extracted by rtPCR process.
https://francesleader.substack.com/p/sarscov2-mrna-is-synthetic
I went on to state that Covid19 was caused by the roll out of 5G and I provided evidence to support, gathered by a Spanish doctor in April of 2020.
I was publishing my research work on Hive.blog at that time so I continued to share it on Facebook and Discord for a few months before both those channels deplatformed me too.
I came to Substack in January of 2021 and uploaded the most important of my work immediately, including a fat file of links and studies.
Christine Massey took my email exchange with MHRA to add to her FOIAs and I was very flattered that she included me in her database. As a direct result of that we became friends until it transpired that she had deliberately extracted the emails from my article because she did not agree with my conclusions about 5G.
From then on I found myself being bullied by her and a small 'team' of acolytes. Sadly, Bill Huston was one of the most unpleasant among them. It is awful that he found himself metaphorically beaten to death by his paper heroes.
One by one, every single person you mention began to either ignore me or dismiss me and character assassinate me despite my entirely polite efforts.
Very early on, I found myself blocked by Sam Bailey (both on Odysee and on SS) which was very odd because she never answered me directly when I commented on her work. Then I began to simply observe and quietly, without saying a word to any of them, I blocked every single one of the No Virus Inc 'team' because they were demonstrably bullying people and trying to control the opposition. They were self-appointed leaders and, like you, I don't play 'follow my leader' since I was about four years old.
One unpleasant female of little consequence told me that my 5G=C19 'theory' was insane, unsubstantiated and the reason why "everyone ignores you"!
Phew, I thought. What a relief!
After reading your story I am now eternally grateful to Facebook, Twitter and Discord for de-platforming me! (I never thought I would say that!)
The No Virus Inc 'team' were unable to glean information about me, my friends and my family because all my social media accounts had been completely removed from sight! They could not dox me. They could not blackmail my friends or my family. They could not get to me on SS because I have blocked the entire team.
Last to go was that astrologically naked slimeball Eric F Coppolino, who did his best to smear my name within weeks of subscribing to his self-aggrandising nonsense. At least he had the grace (or fear?) to return my money after he discovered that he could not dox a woman who lives on a pension and using her birth name blatantly and boldly on every single account ever held on any social media platform. He must have been livid that he could not pull the same discrediting stunt that he used against Poornima Wagh, who (incidentally) was also correlating 5G with C19.
The 'team' has outed itself. Fallen on its own sword. Thank you Jamie, I am utterly delighted that you swear as much as you do. That bunch of see-you-next-tuesdays deserve MUCH MUCH more than a few hurty words. They should be exposed and I think that your blazing light and sheer crystal grit just might be a catalyst that will totally dispense with these self-appointed leaders that nobody ever wanted or elected.
Well said Jamie. These assholes are as bad as SenseStrand and I almost hold him in higher regard. I’m sorry they doxxed your scientists. I really miss DPL. I used to talk to Bill and he told me how they - Christine Massey (the Reicki Healer, Goddess of light and love) in particular - had really hurt him. A bunch of fucking assholes with delusions of grandeur. Completely shameful.
I think you are being exceptionally kind to one of the most puke inducing, compulsive liars I have ever met. The boy lies with every breath he takes.
You are SO RIGHT! I've deleted my previous comment/note from all the places I posted it! I wrote that initially to appeal to those who are new to all this information. However, I did so without regard to all the nasty sh*t that Stoney has perpetrated on others and with a dimmer on all the sh*t Stoney pulled on me. This is what happens when we capitulate!
I still think that I may have been among the very first of OUR "crew" who was exposed to Stoney's horrific psychoses, (in late 2022), so please correct me if any of you were EARLIER victims of Stoney.... (It sounds like Bill Huston may have been victimized by Stoney before me..??) However, as I recall, after meeting you and DPL by mid-2023, it DID TAKE the rest of you some TIME before you realized what I was trying to tell you about Stoney. That's another reason why I think I may have been among the first victims of Stoney's sealioning/lying/obfuscating....
It was so demoralizing and really debilitating when Stoney unleashed his psychoses on me. I had such high hopes for this new dissident movement, after the despicable, disgusting things that happened in our old "AIDS" dissident movement. I was feeling super alone until I met you and DPL. So again, you are right, Stoney is possibly the worst member of the NO VIRUS INC crew, maybe even worse than Mark Bailey who is more obviously a villain....Thank you for setting me STRAIGHT!
Stone seems to be an attack dog for most of them, we all seen how he acted in the group when we dared question the vitamin D scam!